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    Question Booster Hose Problems

    We recently switched from the older, red rubber booster hose, to the new "lightweight" yellow booster hose, and we are having problems with the stuff not spooling well, not staying spooled tightly, and turning to spagetti on the reels.
    We've tried leaving water in, draining them well, and we have given them time to settle, but there is little improvement.
    We are using pretty standard sized reels, but the stuff just doesn't want to lay in there.
    Any suggestions?

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    Get rid of it!!! The only apparatus we will have a booster hose specced on is a grass/brush firefighting apparatus. My dept has made this decision due to the likelihood of using it is not comon. Yes, they are nice for the lil smoldering wood chip outside the fast food restaurant thing but you can do the same with a water can.

    Just a thought is all.

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    These are brush rigs.... (damn city boys can't appreciate a good pump-n-roll firefight)

    We're just not used to fancy, "lightweight" hose... I miss that old, red, cracked booster hose now.....

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    So get some nice new red booster hose.Trade the not ripe stuff off to someone else for another trinket you might need. T.C.

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    Lightbulb Hose Problem?

    The coil size of the hose and the drum size of the reel probably do not match. You can check with the manufacturer of the reel and tell them what type of hose you have and they will tell you if the reel you have will work like it is suppose to. To me, it sounds like the drum on the reel is too small.

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    Are you talking about the 1" forestry hose that is rubber outside and when its empty it goes flat???? Cause if thats what your talking about why have it on the reel ... you cant use it unless u pull the whole reel, which defeats the purpose of a booster line. We use this on our brush unit and our engines as a great rubbish/brush line its easy to deploy and lightweight 1 person can handle 200 feet of it with ease. We pack it accordian in a 2 foot long by 1 foot wide by 1 foot deep well on the front bumper of our engines and lay it the length of the bed in our brush unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy2802 View Post
    We recently switched from the older, red rubber booster hose, to the new "lightweight" yellow booster hose, and we are having problems with the stuff not spooling well, not staying spooled tightly, and turning to spagetti on the reels.
    We've tried leaving water in, draining them well, and we have given them time to settle, but there is little improvement.
    We are using pretty standard sized reels, but the stuff just doesn't want to lay in there.
    Any suggestions?


    You guys need to go back to the old red line and get rid of that yellow stuff. It doesn't roll up like the red line does.

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    Yep, I think you're right.
    It claims to work on as small as a 4 inch reel hub... but it still spagetties out if you aren't careful, even on a 10 or 12 inch reel.
    We've figured out if you completely drain it, and have someone guide it back on slow and carefull, it lies a little better... but as soon as we burn through this stuff, we will definitely go back to the old red line.

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    Sounds like you are using the Reel-Tex or similar hose. The stuff is garbage... doesn't fit on reels well, burns the daylights out of your hands when guiding it on the reel. The only good thing is that it takes about 5 minutes to repair couplings in the field with nothin more than an allen wrech and a sharp knife.
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    Andy you will also find that, that hose is not as great as what they say it is. We tried it on two of our brush rigs as a trial and found that they get caught up on staubs too easily and have an affinity for bursting. We also did not like the way they stored on the reels as well. Some of the CAL Fire rigs in our area have the light weight stuff and they have had mixed results as well. Rubber it is the only to go. And yes our Type I's have reels too. And yes we use them for all sorts of things. It is all about what size you spec.

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    We had similar problems at first. We have 200' of 1" Neidner Hotstop lightweight hose. The whole pile of hose can be lifted with one hand when dry. When shipped, it comes coiled large. That is why it takes time for it to conform to the Hannay reel. This hose flows about twice what the old red rubber hose would. We store it dry on the reel. We have an air blow out valve to completely empty it when done being used. At first it was a lot of spaghetti and had to be run out a lot and re-done on the reel. The more it is used, the better it gets. If you do have to pull a lot off the reel prior to rewind, when it is dry, it is so light and easy to handle that one person can easily rewind it and have you up and going in just a minute or two. We have the reel on the foam manifold and with the F-500 we are using, this line is a favorite for gasoline spills and brush and trash fires. Since it does get a lot of use, the hose has gotten more flexible and much easier to deploy and rewind. Took about a year to get this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retiredtruckman View Post
    We had similar problems at first. We have 200' of 1" Neidner Hotstop lightweight hose. The whole pile of hose can be lifted with one hand when dry. When shipped, it comes coiled large. That is why it takes time for it to conform to the Hannay reel. This hose flows about twice what the old red rubber hose would. We store it dry on the reel. We have an air blow out valve to completely empty it when done being used. At first it was a lot of spaghetti and had to be run out a lot and re-done on the reel. The more it is used, the better it gets. If you do have to pull a lot off the reel prior to rewind, when it is dry, it is so light and easy to handle that one person can easily rewind it and have you up and going in just a minute or two. We have the reel on the foam manifold and with the F-500 we are using, this line is a favorite for gasoline spills and brush and trash fires. Since it does get a lot of use, the hose has gotten more flexible and much easier to deploy and rewind. Took about a year to get this way.
    That's good to hear.. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy2802 View Post
    That's good to hear.. thanks.
    after trashing our reeltex hose numerous times, we'll be putting the rubber booster hose back on out brushtruck.

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    Default I can solve your problem

    The best way to fix the booster hose issue is

    1. remove a ax from your truck

    2. commence chopping it in little pieces.

    3. throw it in the garbage.

    4. use tech from this century.


    good luck with these steps any questions repeat 1-3 for as long as it takes.

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    We have the yellow lightweight hose too, but it works fine for us. i havent had any problems with it whatsoever. on the other hand, we have had it in service for 3 years, but we didnt have any problems then either

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    Default a famous man once said

    "Captain Stanley said to Chet get the reel line"

    But that was 1974 and it still wasnt a good idea.

    see the attached pic for how we do it.

    200ft of 2.5" stored in bed. the 2.5" has a gated wye to forestry hose 1" thread.

    The dry reel stores 400ft of 1" forestry We stretch and connect what you need.

    The truck carries a total of 1000ft of forestry hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfd2674 View Post
    Are you talking about the 1" forestry hose that is rubber outside and when its empty it goes flat???? Cause if thats what your talking about why have it on the reel ... you cant use it unless u pull the whole reel, which defeats the purpose of a booster line.
    I agree 100%

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    To me,that defeats the whole purpose of having a reel line which we use for very minor fires and clean up. If we want to hand lay hose out for such purposes we have a whole truck load of hose to do that with.We have ONE Engine with flat loaded forestry line(1")and it's only because a former Chief didn't have the foresight to put on a booster reel. T.C.

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    We have been using the Mercede's Boostlite hose on all of our Type 6 Engines for several years. At first we had a problem with it coiling tight on the 4000 Series reel. After about 6 month of use multiple times a day they started "softing" up and laying tightly on the reels.

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