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    Default Department with the "huge" pumper/tanker

    Can't recall who has it now...Supposed to be a pair of them.

    3000/minute pump, monster tank, lots and lots of LDH. Had the fold-up bumper, etc.

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    I believe you are referring to Hubbardston, MA

    http://csspecialty.com/hubbardston_ma.htm

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    y in the good lord's name would you wont something like this there is no way u can get enough water to this thang what a waste of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy1213 View Post
    y in the good lord's name would you wont something like this there is no way u can get enough water to this thang what a waste of money
    1. Use proper english Jeremy. This isn't text messaging or a teeny bopper forum. You want us older guys to treat you as an equal, you need to act like one.

    2. The Hubbardston, Ma. rigs are customized to their organization's individual operation. The specs are very well thought out and written by members of the company.

    3. Please explain your statment "there is no way you can get enough water to this thing." I suspect that as a youngling, you have no clue to what it is you speak of.
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    I hope they have a heck of a water supply to flow 3000 gpm!

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    .... And one hell of a fire to flow it on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy1213 View Post
    y in the good lord's name would you wont something like this there is no way u can get enough water to this thang what a waste of money
    cause if you have big fire u need much water n u might not know how 2 supply it but i bet they do when they have big fire and you can easily supply it from a draft if you try and i bet theyve tried it and i bet it works so there
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy1213 View Post
    y in the good lord's name would you wont something like this there is no way u can get enough water to this thang what a waste of money
    Did you stop to think that perhaps the members of the fire department (one of which resides on these forums quite a bit) actually put a lot of thought into what they needed into their vehicle? A needs analysis of the response district can do a lot to help plan your next vehicle. Exactly the same thing you've done on these same forums. Just because the rig might not fit the needs of your area doesn't make it a waste of money.

    Also, please learn how to use proper english.
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    Talking English isn't taught until middle school

    Apparently they don't teach the English language until the seventh grade where he comes from.

    Jeremy if you do a needs assessment of the fire load capabilities in your town and determine that the fire flow needed will require large volume flow and you have limited manpower resources , then a truck such as built by Hubbardston makes lots of sense. They did an incredible job putting this design onto paper and finding the right company to build it.

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    Jeremy, have you ever heard of ISO ratings?? This apparatus could of very well dropped their ISO number significantly. One thing is for certain it appears as though Crimson and the members of that department did one hell of a job building and specing that rig. My hat is off to them!

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    One more thing Jeremy...... think this rig is too much, trying looking at Rattlesnake Fire and Rescue in Colorado. I would love to hear what you have to say about their rigs. I encourage you to google them. And when you get to their home page make sure to read about the reasoning behind them. You might learn something. Hopefully one of the reasons why you are here on this forum to begin with!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotafireguy View Post
    I believe you are referring to Hubbardston, MA

    http://csspecialty.com/hubbardston_ma.htm
    I followed the link that shows the Hubbardston truck drawing. It was interesting to see that Crimson had the colored 3D views on the first page then individual pages that show each compartment layout. Does Crimson do this for every order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    cause if you have big fire u need much water n u might not know how 2 supply it but i bet they do when they have big fire and you can easily supply it from a draft if you try and i bet theyve tried it and i bet it works so there
    speaking of using proper english...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    speaking of using proper english...

    Satire ring a bell?

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    there are several other departments that have similar "over the top" (by conventional standards) rigs, Fallon-Churchill, Nevada and Armadillo, Texas come to mind.. All were precisely designed to suit that municipalities needs and drastically lower their ISO rating. I believe they were designed with the help of a fellow (now deceased) who specialized in thinking out of the box on apparatus and reducing ISO ratings. check out isoslayer.com for other communities
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerJake72 View Post
    there are several other departments that have similar "over the top" (by conventional standards) rigs, Fallon-Churchill, Nevada and Armadillo, Texas come to mind...
    Not to pick nits, but I believe you're actually referring to Annaville, TX. As you stated, both Annaville and Fallon-Churchill were designed by the late Larry Stevens specifically to meet the departments needs while lowering thier ISO rating.
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    1. WOW, buff was nice in the way he handled it. When I saw his name I was afraid he was going to tear this youngin a new one. Consider yourself lucky.

    2. Its hard to make the case that the glory tankers you talked about are the result of just ISO and proper planning. Alot of it is EGO! ISO does'nt care about anything but numbers. You can get there without some of the very expensive bells and whistles. Unfortunately, the fire service has a tradition of over customizing trucks and blowing taxpayer money. While the trucks mentioned are nice, let no department think they can't get the same performance for alot less. After all, isn't performance the ONLY thing of real importance in this job?

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    I would say performance is a close second behind reliability! Does Crown still make fire eingines??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilamonster View Post
    1. WOW, buff was nice in the way he handled it. When I saw his name I was afraid he was going to tear this youngin a new one. Consider yourself lucky.
    I give a little slack for the kids who like apparatus and occasionally come down here. He still has to do the dishes for the next week, clean all of the compartments, re-finish and re-paint all the tools, and sit all the late watches as compensation for his sin.
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