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    Arkansas Agencies Argue Over Body Recovery http://cms.firehouse.com/content/art...7&sectionId=46
    I am well aware that their are more police dive teams then fire department dive teams, but can't we just talk with the police agencies we work with BEFORE an incident?
    We have always had a good working relationship with our police and because they don't have divers we came to them and asked what they need from a water scene. Since then we have dove under their guidence for evidence and drill on a regular basis in processing a water crime scene. Now we wont screw up their evidence and they know what we do. In the 21st century is it that hard to do?

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    Technically, the fire department is in charge until they decide it's a recovery and no longer a rescue. However, once recovery starts the Police can declare a crime scene and pull EVERYONE out.

    They admitted that they had a sonar hit on someone/something under the water and after that long (it's inferred it's over an hour) it's a recovery.

    As far as I can tell the police had the power and the right to remove everyone from the scene for their investigation.

    However, I agree...can't we all just get along?

    We had a body recovery last year, and the only people available to us for dive teams were the NH State Police and the Vermont Fish & Game. They both came out and together spent a full day searching for the body before they found it. No rivalry or toes being stepped on. It was all about finding the body.
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    We had a great example of "getting along" today with the second drill with our police on evidence recovery. Our police processed a simulated crime scene involving a murder victim dumped in a local body of water, with multiple other pieces of evidence.
    The Police informed us on how to collect evidence and assist them in the crime scene. We explained what we do and why, as well as showing what needs to be done to just find the evidence. In the end they had a good understanding of their crime scene and we can appreciate what goes into this situation.
    In the end it is all about building relations, and we were able to take a big step today. So it can be done, Rome wasn't built in a day.

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