A good example of what an 1 3/4" can handle.
A good example of what an 1 3/4" can handle.
yeah and with about 15-20 seconds of water flowing before the bulk of it was knocked.
Someone else can do the math, but that is way less than tank water and it appeared prior to many of the other companies arriving on the scene.
How many of you would have recommended a defensive attack or a 2 1/2" or bigger lay on that one? C'mon, be honest.
Heck of a good attack! First guy to mask knocks it down, advance is made. More than likely was simply a front room/content fire with perhaps a little extension down the hall.
IMO, when the fire is rolling out the window and across the porch ceiling, it is typically not as bad as it looks because of the lateral depth of the ceiling. Similair to when you pull up on the boo-boo buggy to see a guy with a face full of blood streaming everywhere from the 1/2" lac above his eyebrow. Looks worse than it is.
Nice job, quick easy knockdown with the right sized line.
depends, might have opted for the 2 1/2 might have not.
Can't make a solid call from a video.
Great job done by the crew.
Only thing I could add is the could have had the last man (Doorman)on the line spray it down while the 2 front men (nozzle and co) masked up.
The did a heck of a job (and I am only splitting hairs)
Luckily for many posers here it appears the option to attack from the unburned side was not present, so they can't question that.
I work in an area that's full of buildings look to be laid out pretty similarly - attached on both sides, big picture window in front of a large living room with a hallway and door right next to it. One thing this video shows at about the 1:35 mark is that if you're on the same level as the fire and knock down the bulk of the fire through the window then take the line through the door, you have a much easier time making the push. We have a ton of brownstones and rowframes with a similar layout and when you have a fire condition like the one in the video the line always advances quicker when the nozzleman takes 10 seconds to operate the line through the window then just attacking it head on. Just a suggestion, it works for us and looks like it worked in this video.
Very nice job on the attack. BTW what is Philly's 1 3/4 set up. What is the length and what type of nozzle is married to it. Just looking at what type of GPM's they are putting on this.
Very nice! Looked a lot bigger than it actually was. I couldn't tell if that was a straight stream or a smoothbore. Anyone know?
good info. i appreciate it.
Most dwellings get a tactical box with does consist of 2 Engines, 2 Ladders and a Battalion Chief. Depending on the number of calls, the feel of the dispatcher etc. the call maybe upgraded to a full box which gives you an additional 2 Engines and an additional chief. A full box will also get transmitted on the type of occupancy such as an apartment, building, garage, store, hospital, school etc. First and Third Engines take the front. Second and Fourth Engines take the rear. First Ladder and Chief take the front. Second Ladder and Chief take the rear. Once 2 Engines and 2 Ladders are placed in service you get the closest SOC company, ALS medic unit and an additional Ladder as RIT. An all hands box gets both a Rescue and Squad Company as well as a Deputy Chief.
The one thing that I would add is not generalize these types of buildings. I have investigated fires in row houses in different parts of Phila. and the construction is different. I have investigated them in Newark, NJ and they are different from those two. I have investigated them in Mt. Carmel, PA and they are different still.
The difference is basically in the way they are connected. Some have open cocklofts. Some have cocklofts broken by wood walls. Some have common chimney chases in the common wall. Some have attached back porches. Some have common front porches. And so forth.
Learn the building construction in your area.
These guys obviously knew the building type and did one helluva job on the knockdown.
Again, know the buildings in your area.
Knowing your area is very important. While you may have many similar buildings there's always the exception. Especially with new construction.
Those guys did a damn good job. They had the fire knocked down quicker than it would take some stone thrower here to knock their balls off behind the protection of a computer screen.
Where are all the deuce and a half fans??
I guess its not ok to slam some random firefighter for some video or news article, but some poster saying what they might do from a video is ok to slam. great code of conduct we have.