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    Default Fire Helmet Color - Black Any Hotter?

    We're looking for some help, and can't seem to find any information/formal studies on the topic.

    Our Department (So.California) is considering switching to a Black New York style (traditional) fire helmet, and many of us our concerned that the black helmet will create an even bigger heat/temperature problem for our Firefighters, particularly in the summer months.

    Does any one have any personal experience, links to studies, and/or recommendation on this topic? The temperatures in our area of So.California easily reach 100 + for 2-3 months of the year, and I view this transition as an unnecessary risk to the Firefighters, but maybe my worry is unfounded.

    Thanks in advance, for any help you can provide!

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    The Cairns helmets have a thermal liner. I would assume this would make helmet color a moot point as there is a barrier between the shell and the head.

    Check the link for head temps:

    http://media.msanet.com/NA/USA/FireH...nsHotHeads.pdf

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    Nope. We went form some very nice lightweight Bullard helmets to the big ugly 1010. The only difference is the weight and the bulkiness of the stupid thing. I guess someone was more concerned with how they look than the function.

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    I thought my 1010 was light, especially after getting the N6A. I weighed mine and the 1010 is 59 oz. and the N6A is 79 oz.

    But it looks good!

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    Black helmets act like a heat sink and cause you to cook the brain. Next thing you know you'll want to be running into burning buildings! That's why you see white hats outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Black helmets act like a heat sink and cause you to cook the brain. Next thing you know you'll want to be running into burning buildings! That's why you see white hats outside.
    I thought they were white to preserve what little was left
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    don't think there is an appreciable difference. I wear black and my head never seems hot.

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    Helmet color does not matter in terms of one color being hotter than the other. White helmet get just as hot black ones when you are inside a burning building. And when you come out of a burning house and take your helmet off the blue one will burn your fingers just as much as the red helmet will

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    If you think a 1010/1044 is heavy, put a Ben II on your head. You will be thankful to have the Cairns back.
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    Cool helmet color

    Had a yellow cairns metro type as a probie, and was issued a black traditional Bullard after a year, and have a black phenix leather now(great helmet) that I bought myself. The only difference has been the weight,and even that isn't that noticeable.So the other guys are correct in stating that inside structure floor /ceiling temp is the same for everybody,regardless of helmet color. Love the white helmet comment ,very funny

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