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    Default Speaking of drafting......

    What's wrong with this picture?
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    The dry hydrant isn't marked, nor the curb painted red, or it be known by any fashion not to park there.

    Whoever put it there, should have made sure that it was easily identified as a hydrant, and not to park there.

    You can't blame the uneducated/clueless.

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    Default Check the threads!

    Agree with Firemech that it appears to need some "no parking" signs- Also, it looks like it has male threads so it will need an adapter to convert to female before drafting can begin. I also think the women in the picture needs a tan!

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    that fire SUV isn't red, doesn't appear to be equipped with a pump, doesn't have a front intake.


    I'm joking, firemech is right. If you don't do anything to mark a dry hydrant as a fire hydrant you can't blame someone for parking in front of it. Being gray like that, I bet the person thought it was just something related to electric or gas utilities.

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    More fun at Buff's expense....

    I asked both my daughters this past weekend, what the gray thingy was in the pic, to see if they might know. (Both are in their 30's)

    #1: Isn't that what they use to keep the water level up for the lake?

    #2: Is it the connection to the tanker that they use to restock the fish?

    I got head slapped by #2 when I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

    Seriously though. We have several large lakes within a 50 mile radius, and none of them are piped. I asked the "Chief" about it, and he said that if they needed to, they would drop hard suction lines into the lake(s), and that there wasn't a need to install dry hydrants.

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    Oh wow I had forgotten about this....

    This isn't some picture of a code violation or fire code screw up that I found on the internet....It was taken by yours truly. That is my Ford Escape in the parking spot, and my family in the background. We were going for lunch at a popular restaurant on the Outer Banks. I pulled into the lot, waited for someone to back out of this spot, and pulled in. As I was pulling in, it almost looked like some kind of utility connection or something. Didn't even occur to me what it could be. So I got out of the car and that's when it hit me......No markings, no signs, no red paint, nadda....I snapped the picture, and then promptly moved the car. Before I could even put the tranny in park in another spot, someone else took the space.

    I inquired to a local fire official about it, and he just shook his head and said "even if they did mark it properly, they would probably forget it existed when they needed it."
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    Forty whacks with a wet piece of macaroni. You knew that was a drafting spot so why did you park there?? I know the only spot left and well it wasnít marked and no fire in sight.

    Actually this dry hydrant connection is improperly marked. The color is wrong and there isnít any signage. The payment isnít marked with bright yellow and the letters NO PARKING FIRE LANE isnít apparent.

    The cap on the suction port is correct as these are male threads behind the cap. Every suction sleeve that we have ever used and this goes for most in the Mid-Atlantic area, will have a double female, 6X6, 6x5, 6X4-1/2 or whatever size thread that is used and that is connected to the dry hydrant nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    We were going for lunch at a popular restaurant on the Outer Banks.
    Which one. I'm trying to remember that fence and a pond and I don't remember where that is.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Forty whacks with a wet piece of macaroni. You knew that was a drafting spot so why did you park there?? I know the only spot left and well it wasnít marked and no fire in sight.

    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    I snapped the picture, and then promptly moved the car. Before I could even put the tranny in park in another spot, someone else took the space.
    Actually this dry hydrant connection is improperly marked. The color is wrong and there isnít any signage. The payment isnít marked with bright yellow and the letters NO PARKING FIRE LANE isnít apparent.
    Ya think there McFly??? That's the point of this whole thread! I see someone didn't do too well in "Reading for Comprehension."
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Which one. I'm trying to remember that fence and a pond and I don't remember where that is.
    I don't want to embarrass any of the local officials. It's somewhere in between Oregon Inlet and Ocracoke Inlet.
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    Oh ok. Way further south than I ever go. My family lives up in Duck and Point Harbor and its the vacation and family reunion site for the last 20 years. But we usually don't go that far south much. Though next year I'm gonna be on the lookout!
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Default More fun.....

    Hey Captain Obvious...Jonnee.... It should be painted RED and not yellow, to signify a FIRE HYDRANT. But thanks for playing.

    FWD.... At first I thought you were going after the "uneducated/clueless" person for parking there. Since you were actually going after what I first replied, that means that you owe me a "real" Philly Cheese Steak. You can get me at your next muster next year. I plan on attending it, with "The FOAM".

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    I have a very good reading comprehension!

    If you re-read what I said, it was out of fun!

    I know that you parked there.

    I know after you realize it was a dry hydrant connection that you moved.

    I know that someone else jumped in the space.

    I know that you asked some local fire official.

    If you canít see that I was busting your balls on this, then so be it.

    Most people looking to park a car probably would have parked there as well. You being a firefighter of some sort, saw that this was a dry hydrant connection, once you exited your car and took a closer look.

    You might be surprised that some folks and that includes fireman, have never seen a dry hydrant connection in their life and may think it is something else!

    That connection should be painted red in color and have the proper signage.

    BTW- In Virginia curbs indicating FIRE LANEíS are painted YELLOW and not red!

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    Default Hey Jonnee

    Don't know what kind of hard sleeve you guys are running but in the northeast all of ours are male on one end and female on the other. Steamer connections on the engines are all male, that leaves us with a male end on the hardsleeve to connect to the dry hydrant. Don't want to carry adapters so we have the builders put the connections we need on the dry hydrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex3260 View Post
    Don't know what kind of hard sleeve you guys are running but in the northeast all of ours are male on one end and female on the other. Steamer connections on the engines are all male, that leaves us with a male end on the hardsleeve to connect to the dry hydrant. Don't want to carry adapters so we have the builders put the connections we need on the dry hydrants.
    Don't know where in the northeast you are, but I can visualize female swivel couplings on dry hydrants getting snow and ice in them making them difficult if not impossible to use. That's why we carry double female adapters (one 4-1/2 x 6 and one 6 x 6) in our nice dry compartments. Many years ago we had one of the three sleeves on an engine with female couplings on both ends. The only time we had a problem with it was when we were out in freezing rain. It got loaded up and frozen tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    I have a very good reading comprehension!

    If you re-read what I said, it was out of fun!

    I know that you parked there.

    I know after you realize it was a dry hydrant connection that you moved.

    I know that someone else jumped in the space.

    I know that you asked some local fire official.

    If you canít see that I was busting your balls on this, then so be it.

    Most people looking to park a car probably would have parked there as well. You being a firefighter of some sort, saw that this was a dry hydrant connection, once you exited your car and took a closer look.

    You might be surprised that some folks and that includes fireman, have never seen a dry hydrant connection in their life and may think it is something else!

    That connection should be painted red in color and have the proper signage.

    BTW- In Virginia curbs indicating FIRE LANEíS are painted YELLOW and not red!
    Sorry I usually find that the larger the Curriculum Vitae posted on one's profile, the lesser intelligence possessed by the poster, especially Chief Officers and Fire Instructors, hence the reading comprehension remark. Carry on.
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    That is almost obscured by the wooden frame work. Needs to be painted red and some signs put up near it. Plus the payment should be marked too.
    Someone without fire service experience would not know what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    You might be surprised that some folks and that includes fireman, have never seen a dry hydrant connection in their life and may think it is something else!
    that's no surprise, all about where you run. Just like I know there are a lot of firemen out there that probably have never seen in ground or wall hydrants.

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    I thought I knew where this was, but when we drove by today it doesnt look like the same place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    that's no surprise, all about where you run. Just like I know there are a lot of firemen out there that probably have never seen in ground or wall hydrants.
    I guess I'm one of them, what's a "wall hydrant"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MG3610 View Post
    I thought I knew where this was, but when we drove by today it doesnt look like the same place..
    Go south on 12 to the second traffic light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by confire
    I guess I'm one of them, what's a "wall hydrant"?
    I'll take a stab at this one.

    Growing up in the '60's, I remember seeing these alot at big stores, high rises, etc. on the exterior building walls. At that time, I guessed they were hookups for the fire trucks to pump water into the building. Only a very few times did I see another connection inside a building, with a sign that said "For Fire Dept. Use Only", or something similar. At that time, I figured it was where the FF's were able to bring in hose, connect to it, and fight the fire. I was either in the 3rd or 4th grade, when I had an interest in fire trucks, and what they did. When I got older, the interest died away, by way of a Military upbringing, and family history.

    Flash forward 40+yrs. I'm a fire/rescue technician (sorry for the digression).

    This is a wall hydrant http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncut/46993573/ . More than likely I'll be wrong with the following, and will be corrected.

    More than likely the reason why you don't see them as much as you used to, is because of the fire codes that have been implemented over the years. Sprinkler systems are one reason why. But I have seen them on buildings built within the last couple years, so they are not yet obsolete.

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    That would be the same as a FDC for standpipes or to support the sprinkler, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Go south on 12 to the second traffic light.
    Buff,

    Is this in Southern Shores?

    I will be in OBX next week and would like to look at this!

    Thanks,

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    Default Speaking of drafting...

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