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    Cool Securing LDH in Hose Bed

    How are you guys securing your LDH in your hosebeds? We currently run with half tarps to tuck the folds under but have been known to lay hose down the interstate accidently. We do have the nets on some of our newer apparatus but it has caused some problems when laying a supply hose. Any recommendations would be appreciated!

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    Don't tell the NFPA....but we don't secure ours.


    We pack it well and it stays in place.
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    All the hose ends on both the 2 1/2 and 5" are stored at least 3/4's the length from the hose bed end towards the cab. This pretty much makes sure that no matter how many bumps you hit, it won't bounce it's self out of the hose bed. When you need to deploy it, have a rope tied around that first bend, hanging off the back, or tied to a hand rail.

    On some, we installed retractable seat belts to keep them in. About a quarter way up from the hose bed end. Make sure you have to have the coupling on the north end of the seat belt.

    If your half tarps have eyelets at the corners, why not put a couple bungee cords on them, and have them cross to a mount under the hose bed.

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    pack the hose carefully, don't overload the hose bed, and be aware of bumps and don't baja the engine over bumps and you shouldn't have problems.

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    as others have said pack the hose neatly. also fronting the couplings on ldh also helps as well as staggering the fold on the ends. long short long short. (keeps it from bowing up on the ends)

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    LDH is placed male thread/storz adapter on the tailboard over a piece of pvc pipe. The hydrant wrench is placed handle end down inside the pipe, then the adapter is placed over both. The last fold of the LDH is tucked under 3 or 4 lengths of hose so it doesn't come out.

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    This UNIMOG is carrying 3,000' of 5" and 1,000' of 3", the 5" is split 1500' on each side and the 3"is in the middle. The securing system starts at the front of the load just below the top edge with a bar securing reinforced vinyl material attached to ratcheting load straps. This comes up and over the load and down the back where it is secured and ratcheted tight. Each load has an individual strap so you only need to unlock the bin you want to deploy.

    An additional Hose Bed Cover covers everything.
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    Pack it right, FLAT, keeping the hose butts at the front of the bed and by all means, avoid any "ski slopes" at the front of the bed as this will get caught by the wind as you do down the street and may cause you to lay out before you want too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBaronl32 View Post
    This UNIMOG is carrying 3,000' of 5" and 1,000' of 3", the 5" is split 1500' on each side and the 3"is in the middle. The securing system starts at the front of the load just below the top edge with a bar securing reinforced vinyl material attached to ratcheting load straps. This comes up and over the load and down the back where it is secured and ratcheted tight. Each load has an individual strap so you only need to unlock the bin you want to deploy.

    An additional Hose Bed Cover covers everything.
    Sexy, just what the manufacturers wanted, to sell us more overkill and unnecessary junk.

    As The old captain says, pack it right and you won't lay it out.

    "e'cuse us maam, we have to unstrap all our hose before we go in to save your baby, can you give us a minute please"

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    capt. i love the rear of the engine.... back when engines were engines (tear in the corner of my eye)


    it's too bad we have fo-fangled "rescue/EMS first response/hazmat/rope-rigging/swiftwater/vehicles" (with some hose and pumps on them as an after thought )
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    pack the hose carefully, don't overload the hose bed, and be aware of bumps and don't baja the engine over bumps and you shouldn't have problems.
    LOL!

    Back in the day when I was driving an engine like the ol' capt showed (tailboard, hard suction, ladders on the side) anyway ..... yea, couplings in the front, hose loaded very flat with a long seatbelt to yard out the first length.

    Come to think of it, I don't think we even HAD NFPA back then. "Standards? What standards?"
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    When I was with a department that used LDH, we did as the others stated. We made sure that it was packed neatly and tightly and that the front of the hose bed was laying flat. Also make sure that all of the air is out of the hose. That will help it lay flatter.

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    we dont secure it either .......or new engine has a diamond plate hosebed cover ........with the vinal flaps ..........other rigs just ahd canvas covers again with no issue......'cept for the ladder once laid 1100 of 5 in .......that was operator error.
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