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    Default Time to show our support, yet again.

    Brother FyredUp has apparently been "permanently removed". He was removed for attempting to keep some dignity in these threads, by telling a couple of non-hackers to get bent.

    Let's show our support for our brother, once again. FyredUp brings value and substance to these forums, and it is important to show that we support those who do.

    We can't afford to let the mutts run rampant.

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    Have you check with the web team to see why he was kicked?

    I would bet a case of coors light that they had good cause.
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    is there a thread or has webteam removed all evidence?

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    It was this thread

    His actual post has been removed, but CaptainGonzo was able to quote him before the post was removed.

    The Troll gets to stay, and a brother gets kicked off.
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    What the phucking phuck.. Get banned, for telling a loser off.. Who's next??

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    I support Fyredup!!!

    This is what I got from the webteam when I reported LA'S post NOT FYREDUPS!!!

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    Thank you for your assistance regarding the Juust Got Back .. And Some of You Would Have Died !!!! thread. We have permanently banned FyredUp and given a three-day suspension to nmfire.

    Your assistance in monitoring our forums is appreciated.
    I for one IMMEDIATELY replied stating how retarded they were for that decision and for not banning LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesrule1024 View Post
    I support Fyredup!!!

    This is what I got from the webteam when I reported LA'S post NOT FYREDUPS!!!



    I for one IMMEDIATELY replied stating how retarded they were for that decision and for not banning LA.
    I am sure that LA is just giddy with happiness
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    And what exactly did I say in that thread?

    I discussed the fact that the conference speakers focused on safety rather than being aggressive in situations where there was nothing to gain - abandoned structures and structures where evacuated was confirmed, and how that approach differed from some posters who beleive in no longer valid tradition-laden adages such "the building ain't empty until we say so.

    So reducing our risk profile offends you so.

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    I am sure that LA is just giddy with happiness

    Actually as much as I disagree with him, I hate to see him go.

    While I beleive much of what he says is no longer valid in today's world, I have no issue with him saying it.

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    In today's world?? That's the thing you don't understand. This safety thing aint a new movement. Like your the one ridding in from the heavens, with this new theory.. We as Fireman have been condoning safety for a long time now.. However, There's Your version of safety, and then everybody else's.. Me personally, I'm not gonna rely on some convention to help me "Be Safe".. I rely on training,instinct's and senior leadership.. But we still fight fires the "Old Way"............FROM THE INSIDE OUT................ So **** off

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Have you check with the web team to see why he was kicked?

    I would bet a case of coors light that they had good cause.
    you new here?
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    the new wave of "safety" is cowardice badly disguised as safety.

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    He's better off.
    Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

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    Webteam, I've thought deeply about this.
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    In today's world?? That's the thing you don't understand. This safety thing aint a new movement. Like your the one ridding in from the heavens, with this new theory.. We as Fireman have been condoning safety for a long time now.. However, There's Your version of safety, and then everybody else's.. Me personally, I'm not gonna rely on some convention to help me "Be Safe".. I rely on training,instinct's and senior leadership.. But we still fight fires the "Old Way"............FROM THE INSIDE OUT................ So **** off

    Never said it was new, but it seems to have picked up steam.

    Fact is there are more people looking at how and why we operate. There are people who are actually thinking that maybe every building doesn't have to be searched.

    We take the word of civilians that the building might be occupied but we don't beleive them when they say it's empty. Seems a bit odd to me.

    Continue to fight abandoned structure fires and fires in commercial truss buildings, even though they have no value. It's your choice really. I hope it works out for you.

    Today's world isn't like yesterday. Fewer firefighters. Hotter fires. Weaker construction. Earlier collapses. Maybe that's why the safety movement has picked up some steam.

    And again, I wish he hadn't bee banned. He was a value to these forums. But he wasn't someone that I could consider sharing the view of the world with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    And what exactly did I say in that thread?

    I discussed the fact that the conference speakers focused on safety rather than being aggressive in situations where there was nothing to gain - abandoned structures and structures where evacuated was confirmed, and how that approach differed from some posters who beleive in no longer valid tradition-laden adages such "the building ain't empty until we say so.

    So reducing our risk profile offends you so.

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    Today's world isn't like yesterday. Fewer firefighters. Hotter fires. Weaker construction. Earlier collapses. Maybe that's why the safety movement has picked up some steam.
    Welcome to the 21st century, the building construction has deteriorated long ago. Light weight truss's, Ahh man come on, you just now hearing about this stuff. and the hotter fires part, your just too much.. Since when after the invention of plastics have the fires got hotter?

    You know, I think I got you figured out LA.. You sound like a middle age probie, That echo's what the real old crusty's talk about at the firehouse...WAKE UP........

    If you spent more of your time training on these "Modern contraption's" and less 'Worrying' you would be better off..

    Did you know, That you can mount offensive operations in trailer house's !!!

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    Hey web team you all screwed up. What was said didn't justify being banned.

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    I vote for Fyredup!!! I can tell from experience he is no cowboy. I have known him for way too many years and have had him as an instructor many times. Just lately for a live house burn. Safety is always number one for him but we still have some good burns. He is a firefighter and I would follow his but in on any fire. He just calls it like he sees it. This a loss to the firefighting world. As for LA why don't everyone just ignore him.

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    Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.

    "Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Brother FyredUp has apparently been "permanently removed". He was removed for attempting to keep some dignity in these threads, by telling a couple of non-hackers to get bent.

    Let's show our support for our brother, once again. FyredUp brings value and substance to these forums, and it is important to show that we support those who do.

    We can't afford to let the mutts run rampant.
    So how do we support him? I think the permanent ban is BS, but what can we all do to show our support?

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    I've disagreed with Fyredup several times but I fully support reinstating him immediately. No one should be banned for having strong opinions. Where the heck is Freedom of Speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
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    No why you ask that?

    Look at the date I came in this site.

    10 years ago my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
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    We take the word of civilians that the building might be occupied but we don't beleive them when they say it's empty. Seems a bit odd to me.
    I don't normally retort.
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    Fyredup Got my vote. Bring him Back.

    Thank You
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