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    Default Obama's Speech to School Kids

    President Obama is supposed to give a live speech to school kids on Tuesday September 8, 2009. I have been watching this over the last couple of days and am wondering what everyone else thinks.

    Personally, I have no problem with the president speaking to school kids to encourage them to study and stay in school. I would have a problem if he spoke of ideology or pushed a political agenda such as health care or Global Warming. I think in this case it might do something to help the inner city kids get educated and make something of themselves rather than joining the local gang and selling drugs. If it only helped one kid it would be worth it.


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    On September 11,he is said to be speechifying about Muslim sensitivities.
    On a day like that,don't you think he could find another function to attend,say a memorial or meet and greet with DC firefighters if NYC air traffic control won't let his plane into the pattern?
    This country took a hard hit to the heart that day and he seems to be acting like it wasn't during his lifetime so it doesn't matter much to him.

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    I'll just copy a Facebook message that a friend of mine poster (who also pretty much disagrees with me politically)

    Politics is not an arena I typically like to discuss, at least not publicly. Well, for some reason I feel like I need/want to share some thoughts regarding President Obama's speech to our schools on Tuesday. I'm not picking a fight. These are just thoughts from a guy who'd rather talk about the Cubs and their inability to win, than politics. With that being said, here we go.

    Really people, we're going to protest and hold our kids out of school because of this. We're really going to teach our kids that if you don't agree with someone you should "take your ball and go home." Where was the outcry when both Presidents Reagan and Bush #1 addressed our schools during their terms? Which by the way, I don't even remember them doing that. That's the kind of impact it made on my life. Was our lack of an outcry then because they were republican? If so, I find that incredibly sad, shallow, and unfortunately typical. When did someone's party affiliation become the thing we use to determine whether they are good or evil? I'm guessing it's always been like that but I refuse to be that person. I refuse to teach my kids that when you disagree with someone you should cover your ears and yell, "lalalalalala, I can't hear you."

    In fact, some of the greatest teaching moments we have as parents are the times when our kids learn something that doesn't line up with scripture. It's a great opportunity to sit them down and share with them what the Bible says. I know people are worried about what President Obama might say. Will he ask our kids to serve him, to pledge allegiance to him, to convince us to vote for his health care plan? I seriously doubt it. However, if he does, what a great opportunity to dialogue with your kids and with other people about where scripture teaches our allegiance should be.

    I can't help but think that by keeping our kids home, by protesting this speech, we are teaching our kids a more damaging lesson than President Obama might possible teach. I know Obama holds a powerful office, I know he holds a lot of influence but he does not hold more influence over my kids than I do. The office of the President is not more powerful than my office as a parent and I will not teach my kids to run away from people they don't like or agree with.

    Our school sent a note home for us to sign, stating whether or not we wanted our kids to hear the speech. We signed it, saying they could listen to it. When our kids get home, we'll talk about it, and we will correct anything we feel doesn't line up with what we believe as Christians. I'm not afraid of people I don't agree with. You can be afraid, even angry if you want, but this is a great teaching opportunity. I choose to teach my kids to thoughtfully deal with difficult issues and we can't do that by running away from everything we don't agree with.

    I know there will be some that disagree with my stance and that's fine. My hope is not found in my political party, or even my country. My allegiance is to a King and a Kingdom not of this world. So protest all you want. Hold your kids out of school if you'd like. I simply don't believe that behavior is what I want to teach my kids.

    If you read this whole thing, God bless you and I hope you still love me.
    On an additional note I find it pretty sad that there are many parents out there who can go for 12 years and never step inside their kids school or have a real conversation with their child's teacher.

    The classrooms these children are in for 12 years, the posters that hang in the classroom and school hallways, the teachers that never hear from the parents, and the textbooks that never get looked at by parents.

    All these things that children get exposed to for 12 years of their life will have a much bigger impact than one speech by the President, but many parents never cared enough about what goes on in their child's school before. Now they want to be super-parent by protecting their children from the evil president.
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    I'll just copy a Facebook message that a friend of mine poster (who also pretty much disagrees with me politically)



    On an additional note I find it pretty sad that there are many parents out there who can go for 12 years and never step inside their kids school or have a real conversation with their child's teacher.

    The classrooms these children are in for 12 years, the posters that hang in the classroom and school hallways, the teachers that never hear from the parents, and the textbooks that never get looked at by parents.

    All these things that children get exposed to for 12 years of their life will have a much bigger impact than one speech by the President, but many parents never cared enough about what goes on in their child's school before. Now they want to be super-parent by protecting their children from the evil president.
    As a note, when Bush addressed the schools the democrats cried about that as well.

    I have no problem with the president addressing the kids, as long as it doesn’t become political.

    I guess my big mistake in life was reading George Orwell’s 1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    I'll just copy a Facebook message that a friend of mine poster (who also pretty much disagrees with me politically)



    On an additional note I find it pretty sad that there are many parents out there who can go for 12 years and never step inside their kids school or have a real conversation with their child's teacher.

    The classrooms these children are in for 12 years, the posters that hang in the classroom and school hallways, the teachers that never hear from the parents, and the textbooks that never get looked at by parents.

    All these things that children get exposed to for 12 years of their life will have a much bigger impact than one speech by the President, but many parents never cared enough about what goes on in their child's school before. Now they want to be super-parent by protecting their children from the evil president.
    Well done.

    I'm convinced there are many right wing nutcases (like our resident moonbat) who haven't come to grips with the fact a Dem (a scary negro at that) is president.
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    The real reason for Obama's speech.

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    As an observer of the Oba-Hussein Administration strategy and tactics, which increasingly seems to misjudge the minds of the American people and bask in the narcissistic glow of accolades from their core admirers and bought supporters, it occurred to me that the choice of Tuesday September 8th to try to hog the national news scene has much to do with another MAJOR event taking place on that date at 8:00 a.m. in Santa Ana, California.

    Oba-Hussein well knows that most of the nation's schools start on September 9th, so making his message to schools when most are not yet starting CLEARLY shows he is trying to suck the oxygen out of the news cycle with this high-sounding but fraudulent pep talk to empty schools and try to bury the ELIGIBILITY story.
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    I think every sitting president should do this at least once in his term.

    The message should be about the value of getting an education and hard work.

    I'm sure that his speech will be pretty benign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    The real reason for Obama's speech.

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    Yea, that point has sort of been glossed over. Kind of stupid to do the address on Tuesday when the majority of schools don't even start classes until Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I think every sitting president should do this at least once in his term.

    The message should be about the value of getting an education and hard work.

    I'm sure that his speech will be pretty benign.
    I think an annual message would be great, as long as they avoid politics and ideology. A speech that focuses on the virtues and benefits of remaining in school, studying hard, and trying to pull ones self out of the gutter would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    The real reason for Obama's speech.

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    We had few of our local moonbats write letters to the local paper, saying that POTUS is "going to brainwash our children in the ways of socialism through subliminal messages"...

    I wish this was published in the Friday AM edition.. I could have bought stock in Alcoa, taking advantage of the tinfoil hat rush!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I'm convinced there are many right wing nutcases (like our resident moonbat) who haven't come to grips with the fact a Dem (a scary negro at that) is president.
    You don't know jack about my views on race. At best, you're trying to juxtapose Joe Biden's fear, that an "African-American" typically can't be "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" (his words), as mine.

    You're passing of snide pretentious narcissistic remarks as if they were mine, are entirely predictable for such a lowly conceded condescending bottom-feeder who can do nothing more than make fictitious implications that conservatives are uneducated homophobic inbred trailer-park dwelling Klu Klux Klan members who own more guns than shoes and who fear Hussein because he's black (and in case you missed, he ain't black, at best, he's a mulatto or a halfrican).

    "Black," in our political and social vocabulary, means those descended from African slaves, which Hussein is unquestionable NOT. Let's take a moment to review just how "black" Hussein really is:
    • His mother is white, and from Kansas, a place not known for it rich black/African heritage
    • His father was Kenyan, it was his ancestors who sold the ancestors of American blacks into slavery. Slavery was an ugly, unfortunate, yet legitimate business. The slave trade in Africa existed for thousands of years. It wasn't invented or dreamed up by whites, they were just new customers to the market. Facts that are contrary to the liberal narrative
    • His father was also a British citizen, another country not known for it's deep black/African heritage.
    • He was initially raised by his white mother and his Asian stepfather, in Indonesia, another country not know for it's rich black/African roots.
    • He finished up his childhood in Hawaii, yet another place NOT KNOWN for it's rich black/African culture. In 1980, one year after Hussein graduated from High School, there were just 16,672 blacks in all of Hawaii, accounting for 1.73% of the State's population. My how "immersed" Hussein must have felt in that tsunami of black/African culture that existed in Hawaii.
    • Oh, and the school he attended, was an expensive private school. And since blacks attend private schools at significantly lower rates than whites, we identify yet another trait of his past that is NOT characteristically "black/African."

    So if you're not so comfortable with the facts of his past, let's resort the liberal mode of operation and judge based on appearances.








    OMG, Hussein is so black it's scary. My Uncle Daddy told me and my wife/sister that we'd better heed a man as "black" as Hussein.

    Hussein is no more black than U.S. Rep. G. K. Butterfield (D-NC), who claims to be black.

    And by the way, the first and only person who describes Hussein as a negro on this site is you. You trump up statements and adjectives that I, nor any other conservative have used, and attempt to attribute them to us. You are a weak minded pathetic puppet of liberal. But keep right on posting, there's no better person I could imagine to represent the looney left.

    Your repeated attacks on me in threads that I haven't even posted in yet are proof of how obsessed with me you are. Like I've crashed your entire foundation of liberal fantasies and your sworn to take out revenge on me, Keyboard Commando style. It's like I'm Seinfeld, and you're Newman, except your not as smart or good looking as Newman is.

    Why don't you go learn the difference between $1 trillion and $3 trillion, and get back to me. Or better yet, learn how to use a calendar, and how the Federal Government uses it too.

    Oh, and where is a public copy of Hussein's Birth Certificate? I guess we can throw that promise to be "the most transparent administration in history" right out the window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    You don't know jack about my views on race. At best, you're trying to juxtapose Joe Biden's fear, that an "African-American" typically can't be "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" (his words), as mine.

    You're passing of snide pretentious narcissistic remarks as if they were mine, are entirely predictable for such a lowly conceded condescending bottom-feeder who can do nothing more than make fictitious implications that conservatives are uneducated homophobic inbred trailer-park dwelling Klu Klux Klan members who own more guns than shoes and who fear Hussein because he's black (and in case you missed, he ain't black, at best, he's a mulatto or a halfrican).

    "Black," in our political and social vocabulary, means those descended from African slaves, which Hussein is unquestionable NOT. Let's take a moment to review just how "black" Hussein really is:
    • His mother is white, and from Kansas, a place not known for it rich black/African heritage
    • His father was Kenyan, it was his ancestors who sold the ancestors of American blacks into slavery. Slavery was an ugly, unfortunate, yet legitimate business. The slave trade in Africa existed for thousands of years. It wasn't invented or dreamed up by whites, they were just new customers to the market. Facts that are contrary to the liberal narrative
    • His father was also a British citizen, another country not known for it's deep black/African heritage.
    • He was initially raised by his white mother and his Asian stepfather, in Indonesia, another country not know for it's rich black/African roots.
    • He finished up his childhood in Hawaii, yet another place NOT KNOWN for it's rich black/African culture. In 1980, one year after Hussein graduated from High School, there were just 16,672 blacks in all of Hawaii, accounting for 1.73% of the State's population. My how "immersed" Hussein must have felt in that tsunami of black/African culture that existed in Hawaii.
    • Oh, and the school he attended, was an expensive private school. And since blacks attend private schools at significantly lower rates than whites, we identify yet another trait of his past that is NOT characteristically "black/African."

    So if you're not so comfortable with the facts of his past, let's resort the liberal mode of operation and judge based on appearances.

    OMG, Hussein is so black it's scary. My Uncle Daddy told me and my wife/sister that we'd better heed a man as "black" as Hussein.

    Hussein is no more black than U.S. Rep. G. K. Butterfield (D-NC), who claims to be black.

    And by the way, the first and only person who describes Hussein as a negro on this site is you. You trump up statements and adjectives that I, nor any other conservative have used, and attempt to attribute them to us. You are a weak minded pathetic puppet of liberal. But keep right on posting, there's no better person I could imagine to represent the looney left.

    Your repeated attacks on me in threads that I haven't even posted in yet are proof of how obsessed with me you are. Like I've crashed your entire foundation of liberal fantasies and your sworn to take out revenge on me, Keyboard Commando style. It's like I'm Seinfeld, and you're Newman, except your not as smart or good looking as Newman is.

    Why don't you go learn the difference between $1 trillion and $3 trillion, and get back to me. Or better yet, learn how to use a calendar, and how the Federal Government uses it too.

    Oh, and where is a public copy of Hussein's Birth Certificate? I guess we can throw that promise to be "the most transparent administration in history" right out the window.
    I love watching you jump through hoops at my slightest comment. I feel like I'm a kid playing with an ant and a magnifying glass.

    Guess which one is you?

    Hint: It ain't the magnifying glass.

    It's so easy to get you lathered up, it almost isn't fun.

    You've become a prime example of what Eisenhower warned of the possibility of the crazies taking over the GOP. The inmates are truly running the asylum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    We had few of our local moonbats write letters to the local paper, saying that POTUS is "going to brainwash our children in the ways of socialism through subliminal messages"...

    I wish this was published in the Friday AM edition.. I could have bought stock in Alcoa, taking advantage of the tinfoil hat rush!
    Too Funny, they said the same thing about Bush when addressed the school kids. Isn't it funny how what goes around comes around. These F*ing morons that base their thoughts and opinions on whether the person is a republican or democrat really foul things up. I can think of at least 536 that do this. 535 congress(people) and scfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Well done.

    I'm convinced there are many right wing nutcases (like our resident moonbat) who haven't come to grips with the fact a Dem (a scary negro at that) is president.
    Man, HOW the F*** did I miss that. Just when I though you couldn't say anything dumber you do. Let me see who are the people using race.

    Maxine Waters (D-CA)
    Charlie Rangle (D-NY)
    Van Jones (D)

    Notice anything there. I could care less if his skin was blue. It is the RED (aka Socialism/Communism) inside that I detest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    You don't know jack about my views on race. At best, you're trying to juxtapose Joe Biden's fear, that an "African-American" typically can't be "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" (his words), as mine.

    You're passing of snide pretentious narcissistic remarks as if they were mine, are entirely predictable for such a lowly conceded condescending bottom-feeder who can do nothing more than make fictitious implications that conservatives are uneducated homophobic inbred trailer-park dwelling Klu Klux Klan members who own more guns than shoes and who fear Hussein because he's black (and in case you missed, he ain't black, at best, he's a mulatto or a halfrican).

    "Black," in our political and social vocabulary, means those descended from African slaves, which Hussein is unquestionable NOT. Let's take a moment to review just how "black" Hussein really is:
    • His mother is white, and from Kansas, a place not known for it rich black/African heritage
    • His father was Kenyan, it was his ancestors who sold the ancestors of American blacks into slavery. Slavery was an ugly, unfortunate, yet legitimate business. The slave trade in Africa existed for thousands of years. It wasn't invented or dreamed up by whites, they were just new customers to the market. Facts that are contrary to the liberal narrative
    • His father was also a British citizen, another country not known for it's deep black/African heritage.
    • He was initially raised by his white mother and his Asian stepfather, in Indonesia, another country not know for it's rich black/African roots.
    • He finished up his childhood in Hawaii, yet another place NOT KNOWN for it's rich black/African culture. In 1980, one year after Hussein graduated from High School, there were just 16,672 blacks in all of Hawaii, accounting for 1.73% of the State's population. My how "immersed" Hussein must have felt in that tsunami of black/African culture that existed in Hawaii.
    • Oh, and the school he attended, was an expensive private school. And since blacks attend private schools at significantly lower rates than whites, we identify yet another trait of his past that is NOT characteristically "black/African."

    So if you're not so comfortable with the facts of his past, let's resort the liberal mode of operation and judge based on appearances.



    And by the way, the first and only person who describes Hussein as a negro on this site is you. You trump up statements and adjectives that I, nor any other conservative have used, and attempt to attribute them to us. You are a weak minded pathetic puppet of liberal. But keep right on posting, there's no better person I could imagine to represent the looney left.

    Your repeated attacks on me in threads that I haven't even posted in yet are proof of how obsessed with me you are. Like I've crashed your entire foundation of liberal fantasies and your sworn to take out revenge on me, Keyboard Commando style. It's like I'm Seinfeld, and you're Newman, except your not as smart or good looking as Newman is.

    Why don't you go learn the difference between $1 trillion and $3 trillion, and get back to me. Or better yet, learn how to use a calendar, and how the Federal Government uses it too.

    Oh, and where is a public copy of Hussein's Birth Certificate? I guess we can throw that promise to be "the most transparent administration in history" right out the window.
    That boy has been around!!!!

    It really irks me when you are labeled as a racist becuase you disagree with Barack Hussein Obama's socialist agenda. It is really a shame that the black community (they are the ones saying it) are so shallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I love watching you jump through hoops at my slightest comment. I feel like I'm a kid playing with an ant and a magnifying glass.

    Guess which one is you?

    Hint: It ain't the magnifying glass.

    It's so easy to get you lathered up, it almost isn't fun.

    You've become a prime example of what Eisenhower warned of the possibility of the crazies taking over the GOP. The inmates are truly running the asylum.
    When stupid people and idiots start throwing out the race card because you disagree with Husseins socialism then they are justifiably right to get "lathered up". That tactic is disgusting, immoral, racist in itself, degrading, and damaging to society as whole. I don't know your ethnicity and don't really care. But to resort to such scumbag low ball tactics is plain wrong.

    You are right about one thing. The inmates are running the Asylum.
    • Barack Husein Obama - Democrat
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    When stupid people and idiots start throwing out the race card because you disagree with Husseins socialism then they are justifiably right to get "lathered up". That tactic is disgusting, immoral, racist in itself, degrading, and damaging to society as whole. I don't know your ethnicity and don't really care. But to resort to such scumbag low ball tactics is plain wrong.

    You are right about one thing. The inmates are running the Asylum.
    • Barack Husein Obama - Democrat
    • Control of the Senate - Democrats 59(d) - 39(r) - 2 (I)
    • Control of House - Democrats
    I enjoy watching you get all worked up just slightly less than moonbat.

    Here's a summation of the two of you.

    This sums it up for Conservatives and Republicans. Political dissent from the Right is pro- American. (Hate Obama, Love America) Political dissent from the Left is anti- American. (Hated Bush, Hate America).

    And BTW. All those majority individuals were elected by Americans. Same ones that put in a GOP majority from 1994 to 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    That boy has been around!!!!
    Been around the cuckoo bin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I'm convinced there are many right wing nutcases (like our resident moonbat) who haven't come to grips with the fact a Dem (a scary negro at that) is president.
    And there it is, you can't be against Mr. Obama without being a racist.

    What the heck is it with liberals and Democrats having to play the race card just because people did not vote for President Obama. The same crock of shyte would have spewed forth if a woman were sitting in the Oval Office and you did nto support her - you would be sexist.

    Get a freaking grip pal and at least try to not make yourself look stupid while you are trying to make a point.


    As for the speech, the Obama administration should have the intelligence to see this nonsensical crap from the more extreme conservatives. They could have avoided this stupidity if they had just released the text of the speech early. This is pretty freaking stupid, and given the true difficulties that our nation is facing right now, a freaking speech by a sitting President to our children is not exactly what I would put high up on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    And there it is, you can't be against Mr. Obama without being a racist.
    If only one (like you and moonbat) could assure that wasn't the case. You know you can't given the resurgence of white supremacist groups.

    I didn't say all, I said "many" right wing nutcases. If you're not one of those then you can be assured I wasn't talking about you.

    When liberals come up with extreme views they're typically right. For example, many folks were suspicious that terrorist alert warnings by the DHS were politically motivated. Turns out they were right.

    When conservatives come up with an extreme view (i.e. Obama was born in Kenya) they're typically moonbat conspiracy theory.
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