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    Default White Supremacist Arrested for Facebook Threats

    Montco Police Say White Supremacist Jailed for Threatening Attack on Facebook Page


    by KYW's Brad Segall

    A self-described white supremacist was behind bars in Montgomery County, Pa. on $ 1 million cash bail after he was accused of threatening to shoot up Springfield Township. Police say he had the arsenal to do it.

    According to court papers, police got a call from a concerned person who said that 22-year-old James Gallagher of Wyndmoor was posting profanity-laced threatening messages on his Facebook page. A detective went undercover on the social networking site and was able to read several postings from late August.

    Montgomery County district attorney Risa Ferman says there were pictures of Gallagher holding AK-47 and AR-15 rifles:

    "He was threatening to shoot up Springfield, to just really cause massive destruction to the local community, and he had significant firepower.”

    A search warrant executed at Gallagher’s home on Wyndmoor Avenue turned up guns, ammunition, and white supremacist memorabilia including a flag that said “White Pride, World Wide.”

    Ferman says they have to take the Internet threats just as seriously as they would take threats that are written in a letter and given to someone.



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    I guess facebook is a good thing.

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    So one whackjob posts some bad stuff and it is an indictment of an entire corporate entity? I do not follow your logic.
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    What I meant is that many people think facebook is somehow a bad thing, but something good has come from it. They were able to apprehend a terrorist by using facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie82 View Post
    What I meant is that many people think facebook is somehow a bad thing, but something good has come from it. They were able to apprehend a terrorist by using facebook.
    The correct term is alleged. He only made statements, he did not carry trough with them.

    While this guy appears to be a bit on the unstable side of things - let alone being a moron - your statement is incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie82 View Post
    What I meant is that many people think facebook is somehow a bad thing, but something good has come from it. They were able to apprehend a terrorist by using facebook.
    Or perhaps facebook is a forum for idiots?

    There are REAL Terrorists in this world, most are islamist, who indend and have a record of doing REAL harm to the modern, western world. This guy has a big mouth and small brain which may qualify him as an Obama supporter but doesn't make him a terrorist. Owning firearms does not make you a terrorist. You don't become a terrorist until you actually do something.

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    Well, terrorist threats most definitely count as terrorism. Threatening to shoot up the town is illegal and terroristic, so what he posted is not really alleged....
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    Or perhaps facebook is a forum for idiots?

    There are REAL Terrorists in this world, most are islamist, who indend and have a record of doing REAL harm to the modern, western world. This guy has a big mouth and small brain which may qualify him as an Obama supporter but doesn't make him a terrorist. Owning firearms does not make you a terrorist. You don't become a terrorist until you actually do something.
    Your definition of a terrorist is not even close. You have defined a sibset of terrorist. There are many, many other subsets of terrorism.

    Of course, if you are a bigot, you would define terrorist in such small, narrow fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Your definition of a terrorist is not even close. You have defined a sibset of terrorist. There are many, many other subsets of terrorism.

    Of course, if you are a bigot, you would define terrorist in such small, narrow fashion.
    I'll second that.
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    :Terrorism:

    The use of violence and/or violent intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    Terrorist:

    A person who uses terrorism in pursuit of political aims.

    From the Oxford American Dictionary.

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    He used violent intimidation (threats) and has a political agenda (white supremacy) so he is by definition a terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie82 View Post
    :Terrorism:

    The use of violence and/or violent intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    Terrorist:

    A person who uses terrorism in pursuit of political aims.

    From the Oxford American Dictionary.

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    He used violent intimidation (threats) and has a political agenda (white supremacy) so he is by definition a terrorist.
    Until he is found guilty in a court of law, wouldn't the correct term be "accused terrorist?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Until he is found guilty in a court of law, wouldn't the correct term be "accused terrorist?"
    That was precisely my point. He made statements, but he committed no actions.

    He is still a twit for making those statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Until he is found guilty in a court of law, wouldn't the correct term be "accused terrorist?"
    I'm glad we have locked up all these "accused terrorist" in Guantanamo Bay. Innocent until proven guilty...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    That was precisely my point. He made statements, but he committed no actions.

    He is still a twit for making those statements.
    Sorry DaSharkie, didn't mean to over run your post. As far as Guantanamo, I have to admit the detentions do seem to fly in the face of British Common Law which is what both our legal systems are based on. I realise by calling them something else, this has been circumvented, but just what in the hell are you eventually going to do with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Sorry DaSharkie, didn't mean to over run your post. As far as Guantanamo, I have to admit the detentions do seem to fly in the face of British Common Law which is what both our legal systems are based on. I realise by calling them something else, this has been circumvented, but just what in the hell are you eventually going to do with them?
    I'm just amazed at the double standard here. So many people will defend the Bay to death, because it keeps bad people off the streets while at the same time saying that these guys don't deserve a trial because they are terrorists.

    But this guy is not a terrorist until he gets a trial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Sorry DaSharkie, didn't mean to over run your post. As far as Guantanamo, I have to admit the detentions do seem to fly in the face of British Common Law which is what both our legal systems are based on. I realise by calling them something else, this has been circumvented, but just what in the hell are you eventually going to do with them?
    No idea what you are going to eventually do with them. My personal thought is what the hell good are these people to you after a year? They are so far removed at that point by the goings on in the organization that they are of no use.

    As a former ground pounder, unless they are a higher up person in the chain you put a bullet in their head. I liken them to a pedophile - they are not going to be reformed. These guys will just be cut loos again and back out on the trails trying to kill me again eventually - so I might as well eliminate the possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    I'm just amazed at the double standard here. So many people will defend the Bay to death, because it keeps bad people off the streets while at the same time saying that these guys don't deserve a trial because they are terrorists.

    But this guy is not a terrorist until he gets a trial...
    I think Gitmo is stupid. The premise of putting these guys on U.S. soil though not in the CONUS area somehow makes them not allowed to a trial? While not necessarily a nation we are fighting, they are still bound the laws of our nation and the antiquated Geneva Conventions.

    The guys at Gitmo ought to be kept oversees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    I think Gitmo is stupid. The premise of putting these guys on U.S. soil though not in the CONUS area somehow makes them not allowed to a trial? While not necessarily a nation we are fighting, they are still bound the laws of our nation and the antiquated Geneva Conventions.

    The guys at Gitmo ought to be kept oversees.
    Actually, we got a nice bit of real estate up here. Its called Ellesmere Island. Costs woul be pretty reasonable, no need for fences or high priced security, it comes included, called Wolves and Polar Bears. I don't think muktuk or seal is forbidden, gotta catch their own tho. No problem reading the Quaran, the Eskimos and Inuit sure won't give a damn, if they want to cause a ruckus, about half those lads up there are still membersof the Canadian Rangers and pretty handy with the ol' 303. Could give you a good deal, you get Ellesmere for 99 years, but we get to give you the Maple Leafs and Quebec. I would guess in 6 months the problem is finished, but ya still gotta keep Quebec and the Leafs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Actually, we got a nice bit of real estate up here. Its called Ellesmere Island. Costs woul be pretty reasonable, no need for fences or high priced security, it comes included, called Wolves and Polar Bears. I don't think muktuk or seal is forbidden, gotta catch their own tho. No problem reading the Quaran, the Eskimos and Inuit sure won't give a damn, if they want to cause a ruckus, about half those lads up there are still membersof the Canadian Rangers and pretty handy with the ol' 303. Could give you a good deal, you get Ellesmere for 99 years, but we get to give you the Maple Leafs and Quebec. I would guess in 6 months the problem is finished, but ya still gotta keep Quebec and the Leafs.
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. No Quebec. We have enough problems with the morons of the same ilk here in California, Massachusetts, and New York.

    As for the Leafs - I don't like professional sports but I'll take it by your context that they don't do all that well.

    I like the idea of Ellesmere though. The groups from Amnesty International and the ACLU can paddle across the waters to visit them. Sounds real nice. Sort of like how Australia started out as a Penal Colony. You might be on to something. My idea is cheaper and more cost effective though. Saves lives too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. No Quebec. We have enough problems with the morons of the same ilk here in California, Massachusetts, and New York.

    As for the Leafs - I don't like professional sports but I'll take it by your context that they don't do all that well.

    I like the idea of Ellesmere though. The groups from Amnesty International and the ACLU can paddle across the waters to visit them. Sounds real nice. Sort of like how Australia started out as a Penal Colony. You might be on to something. My idea is cheaper and more cost effective though. Saves lives too.
    Well Amnesty can paddle over if they want. Thule, Greenlands only 159 miles east. Probably easier to walk tho since the Lincoln Sea is only ice free about a month a year. And as the clincher, you will be ecologically friendly. Polar Bears are hungry a lot. Thats what happens when you're 9 foot tall and 800 lbs. Terrorist problem solved, we get healthy Polar Bears, not a dime spent. Look on Google eart and you'll see why no security is needed. Winnepeg is 2100 miles away. Nobody goes there voluntarily at the best of times.
    sorry Quebec is a deal breaker. We will toss in the NDP tho, the US will see that the dems are real rednecks then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie82 View Post
    What I meant is that many people think facebook is somehow a bad thing, but something good has come from it. They were able to apprehend a terrorist by using facebook.
    You'd probably be surprised how many people are apprehended via facebook, myspace, or other social networking sites. There was a group of kids planning a Columbine-type attack in SE Kansas a few years back, posting some of the details on their myspace pages. They were subsequently caught.

    I've read of several other instances locally concerning anything from child porn to acts of violence. Most don't get any national recognition or anything, since it's not news to stop it, it's news for it to happen.

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    Crime gets higher rating than preventing crime...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    That was precisely my point. He made statements, but he committed no actions.

    He is still a twit for making those statements.
    The statements are an action... Making a terroristic threat is a crime, so he is a twit for making the statements, and if found guilty, is a criminal for making those statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie82 View Post
    The statements are an action... Making a terroristic threat is a crime, so he is a twit for making the statements, and if found guilty, is a criminal for making those statements.
    If if if. He allegedly made threats. He has not been convicted of making those threats - in the legal sense of things.

    Making terroristic threats does not make one a terrorist. If I tell you that I am going to beat your brains in, I have just made a terroristic threat - but it does not make me a terrorist.

    The legal world and the world we live in are two completely different arenas and they do not always coincide with one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    If if if. He allegedly made threats. He has not been convicted of making those threats - in the legal sense of things.

    Making terroristic threats does not make one a terrorist. If I tell you that I am going to beat your brains in, I have just made a terroristic threat - but it does not make me a terrorist.

    The legal world and the world we live in are two completely different arenas and they do not always coincide with one another.
    That does not make you a terrorist. As I defined above from the OED, terrorism has a political motive (ex. white supremacy). And making terrorist threats is terrorism by the definition of terrorism and terrorist as stated above.

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    It is pretty clear that this mutt lives in a world filled with hate. I agree that he hasn't been convicted of anything, but, I don't believe you have to have any special indoctrination to be considered a terrorist.

    A murderer has to have murdered, obviously. But, just for the sake of argument, if someone professes their love for children, wouldn't they be considered a pedofile.

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