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    I own a G2 Nitrolon. I don't use it on my helmet though. Great light though. The beam is very sharp. Works great. I carry a G3 LED Nitrolon in a holster as well.

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    Add this to it for 8 continuous hours of 80 lumen output: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m...efire-p-9.html

    Surefire's output/runtime claims are skewed. The P60L module cannot put out 80 lumens continuously, it will overheat, and it only runs about 2 hours before it begins to drop off.

    I have a Malkoff P60LL in a Surefire 6P tethered to my turnout coat. It really rocks.
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    Looks like a good set-up. I have the G2 and have used it quite a bit. It's a nice light, but I agree that it doesn't have nearly the continuous run time Surefire claims. If you're going to be using it a decent amount, look into buying the batteries in bulk (I think they sell a 24 pack). It will save you loads over picking up a pair at the local supply shop. Most online places should have them. If you can't find them, check some military sites like rangerjoes.com or uscavalry.com.

    Have you tried it with the face shield down yet? Does it get any glare? Looks like it might pick up the edge of the shield, but that could just be the angle of the picture.

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    Surefire is finally marketing lights to fire rescue. If you go on thier webpage, they have several lights in hi viz yellow/green with reflective markings. They even sell one with the Blackjack mount right from the factory. Many of them also come with beam shaper kits which is a great idea for smoke.

    The light you have is a standard G2 Nitrolon in yellow. The ones they show are all LED. I just noticed them last night.

    http://www.surefire.com/Flashlights

    They are not listed alltogether, you will have to scroll down alot.

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    A lady from surefire sent us two of the G2L Fire Rescue Lights to try out and then i placed a order for the Black Jack Helmet mounts . They work great best light and mount out there . We are going to order place a order soon for some of the lights and mounts . We also use a 4 AA LED light made by streamlight with the black jack mount.

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    I used to have a couple of G2 lights and they were good, but are pretty outdated now. They will still work fine, though. Runtime was about 45 minutes. Some bulbs would last for months of regular use and some would only last a few hours. The bulbs are sensitive to impact, though. Try not to drop the light much. I used both the G2 and its' metal cousin the 6P for ~2 years until I upgraded to LED lights. I have nothing negative to say about them.

    The mount I couldn't use with my helmet. I have the Bullard FX helmet. I have a visor on mine and the mount puts the lens of the flashlight behind the visor mount so 1/4 to 1/2 of the lens is blocked. If I mount it below the brim, the light shines inside my visor and blinds me when it's dark out. It's even worse if the visor is scratched, dirty, dusty or fogged up. I've got a couple more different mounts on order that I will try until I find one that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomInOregon View Post
    I used to have a couple of G2 lights and they were good, but are pretty outdated now. They will still work fine, though. Runtime was about 45 minutes. Some bulbs would last for months of regular use and some would only last a few hours. The bulbs are sensitive to impact, though. Try not to drop the light much. I used both the G2 and its' metal cousin the 6P for ~2 years until I upgraded to LED lights. I have nothing negative to say about them.

    The mount I couldn't use with my helmet. I have the Bullard FX helmet. I have a visor on mine and the mount puts the lens of the flashlight behind the visor mount so 1/4 to 1/2 of the lens is blocked. If I mount it below the brim, the light shines inside my visor and blinds me when it's dark out. It's even worse if the visor is scratched, dirty, dusty or fogged up. I've got a couple more different mounts on order that I will try until I find one that works.

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    Tom,

    Which bracket are you using when you have these problems with your light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish1445 View Post
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    Which bracket are you using when you have these problems with your light?
    It was the Blackjack BJ003. The mount is well made and sturdy, but the combination of the design, which holds the light so close to the helmet and the fact that I have a visor make it an unusable solution. I will try to take pictures of the Blackjack and the Helm-A-Clip that I am currently using and put them on a webpage. I know the question of helmet lights and mounts comes up a lot and I can at least contribute the little info I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomInOregon View Post
    It was the Blackjack BJ003. The mount is well made and sturdy, but the combination of the design, which holds the light so close to the helmet and the fact that I have a visor make it an unusable solution. I will try to take pictures of the Blackjack and the Helm-A-Clip that I am currently using and put them on a webpage. I know the question of helmet lights and mounts comes up a lot and I can at least contribute the little info I have.

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    Tom,

    Thank you for the compliment, I am Blackjack, we have never had a helmet with a visor problem before. Are you using it above the brim, or below? I would love to help you if I can. You can reach me directly off our web site. I do not want to look like I am trying to sell on this forum.
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    We just got combo packages of the Blackjack with a Streamlight LED. By far, the Blackjack is the best mount I have seen in years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish1445 View Post
    we have never had a helmet with a visor problem before. Are you using it above the brim, or below?
    FYI, I have the same problem with under-brim mounting on my helmet. It's mitigated by the fact that I usually use the light when I have my visor up, such as when I have my SCBA in use.

    Great mount otherwise - works great with my 4AA Streamlight, and I still prefer it over the high-mounts some of my buds use.
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    The only thing that I can think of is that you may have the light too far forward. We designed it to sit BEHIND the visor, when the visor is down. I see people who place the light inside the visor (between the visor and their face). In this position, when you put the visor down, the light hits the flatter portion of the visor and it absolutely will bounce back into your eyes. If you put the lens directly behind the visor, (mine touches the down angle of the visor when the visor is in the down position) you should be fine, and the light will be aimed where your eyes look naturally. Any light that hits the visor in this position will wrap harmlessly away from your eyes following the curve of the visor. If you have it too far forward, the light starts to curve to either side and you do not get a straight shot of light. I hope this helps, if you want you can call me directly 888.222.9118, and I will do what ever I can to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlandfordFire View Post
    We just got combo packages of the Blackjack with a Streamlight LED. By far, the Blackjack is the best mount I have seen in years.
    Thank you very much for the compliment! Be safe, or at least try.

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    Sorry for the belated reply. I have been away from the computer for a while. I had the head of the flashlight behind the visor mount. I tried it above and below the brim. Below the brim it was fine until the visor went down. Above the brim just didn't work well because the pivot point for the visor blocked the beam.
    I took some pictures that will explain the problems a little better, I think. I will try to find somewhere to host them.

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    Tom,

    Email the pictures to me at chris@blackjackholder.com

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