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    Well..........As of about 1400 hours today.........

    We're Debt Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

    No student loans, no car loans, do carrying credit card balances. No money owed to any single person or financial institution. No longer slave to lender.


    And next year MarcusKspn can join us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Well..........As of about 1400 hours today.........

    We're Debt Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

    No student loans, no car loans, do carrying credit card balances. No money owed to any single person or financial institution. No longer slave to lender.


    And next year MarcusKspn can join us.
    Did you call and scream yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Well..........As of about 1400 hours today.........

    We're Debt Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

    No student loans, no car loans, do carrying credit card balances. No money owed to any single person or financial institution. No longer slave to lender.


    And next year MarcusKspn can join us.
    Congrats Sharkie. Its a great feeling isn't it? Now you can concentrate on that umpteen gazillion debt that you as a taxpayer get to be a part of. Maybe you oughta run for govt and show the twits how its done.

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    FREEDOM!!!!!!!

    It's great. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Did you call and scream yet?
    Plan on calling on Friday my friend.......Don't have the volume turned up too loud - the intensity of the scream just may blow the speakers.

    Look forward to hearing you scream next year.


    Sad thing is that we were debt free in 2004 for about 4 months.....then graduate school started and the cycle began anew. Only took 3 years to get there again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Congrats Sharkie. Its a great feeling isn't it? Now you can concentrate on that umpteen gazillion debt that you as a taxpayer get to be a part of. Maybe you oughta run for govt and show the twits how its done.
    Bryan - have you been paying attention to my tone in these forums? My attitude would go over like a fart in church on Capitol Hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Well..........As of about 1400 hours today.........

    We're Debt Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

    No student loans, no car loans, do carrying credit card balances. No money owed to any single person or financial institution. No longer slave to lender.


    And next year MarcusKspn can join us.
    Congratulations!!! Now that you have excess resources you can help those of us who are less fortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Plan on calling on Friday my friend.......Don't have the volume turned up too loud - the intensity of the scream just may blow the speakers.
    Any secret code words we should listen for to let us know it's you
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    CONGRATS! I was debt-free....once. It felt great, so I hope you get to enjoy that feeling for a LONG time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Bryan - have you been paying attention to my tone in these forums? My attitude would go over like a fart in church on Capitol Hill.
    Yeah I don't expect you'd be that popular with your colleagues, but probably would with the taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Any secret code words we should listen for to let us know it's you
    In order to retain my anonymity - nope. Just expect the ground to rumble.

    .......correction, you could listen for the key words of a total debt of $160,124.98 (including interest)

    I am somewhat of a financial geek. I have Quicken records that go as far back as 1994 when I was still in the Marines. I know where every penny I have ever spent from 1994 until now is.......and I still wonder sometimes what in the f@ck I blew some of it on and why....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Congratulations!!! Now that you have excess resources you can help those of us who are less fortunate.
    No financial help. But I can give you encouragement and motivation. You can pay off your debts if you are willing to cut here, trim there, say no, and commit to some self-sacrifice it can be done.

    I save my monetary donations to folks that I know are down and out and to a few charities that I am commited to.

    Besides, you making a statement like that makes you sound like a Socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Yeah I don't expect you'd be that popular with your colleagues, but probably would with the taxpayers.
    Not the taxpayers from Massachusetts. They want more taxes and no fiscal responsibility. Man I cannot wait to get the heck out of here again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Congrats Sharkie. Its a great feeling isn't it? Now you can concentrate on that umpteen gazillion debt that you as a taxpayer get to be a part of. Maybe you oughta run for govt and show the twits how its done.
    Actually, it was never a plan to pay back the debt. If you have noticed, the value of the US dollar has decreased over time since we started " borrowing" money.

    The government will never " pay back" the money that it STOLE from us. Yes, I said stole. The government printed up billions of dollars, which in effect decreased the value of every dollar in the market. Essentially, the government took money out of our pockets.

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    I've plotted our course and hope to be there in the next few years.

    What do you attribute your success to?
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    I am not debt free; still have a mortgage and one credit card. I can relate to your joyous feeling, must be the same way I felt when I made my last child support payment a few years ago.

    Congrats on your accomplishment, can I borrow some $$$ or at least buy the next round

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    .......correction, you could listen for the key words of a total debt of $160,124.98 (including interest)
    I'll listen for the magic number. I imagine you are looking forward to screaming this Friday.

    Now to build up the emergency fund, save for retirement, and to give. Congratulations again on not being a slave anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I've plotted our course and hope to be there in the next few years.

    What do you attribute your success to?
    Chief,

    It is all about drive and pushing yourself. We just got sick of paying a ton of money to someone else every damned month. We also came to the realization that there truly is no such thing as "good debt." If you are married, you and the Mrs. both have to be on the same page, and both have to be committed to doing it. If you both are, then every spare penny you have after paying for the bills goes 1) to a small $1,000 - $1,500 emergency fund never to be touched, and 2) to your smallest debt and then just pay them off and move right up to the largest debt. In the past year we have moved to the Dave Ramsey plan which is essentially what this is and tweaked a couple of things.

    Last year we realized that we made too much money to be able to claim our student loan interest on the taxes so we missed out on the help of $6,000 in interest payments. There was no benefit for us to carry a balance on the loans, and we had already paid off both cars last year.

    I will admit that we have the advantage of having no children, and no mortgage since we rent currently. We also make a tidy sum of money between the two of us so we had it "easier" than others and just socked away a ton of money to whack the bills every month. Not everyone is in that situation. You have to drive yourself to do it though - regardless of how much you make - and cut all but 1 credit card up.

    You can do it, and you will do it, but you and Mrs. Chief have to be on the same page and committed to do it - and set a date to do it. We had given ourselves until this December to do it, and we did it 2 months early - only because we emptied almost all of our savings to do so.

    Keep us posted Chief and we will keep you motivated and on target to accomplish your goal. You can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    I'll listen for the magic number. I imagine you are looking forward to screaming this Friday.

    Now to build up the emergency fund, save for retirement, and to give. Congratulations again on not being a slave anymore.
    Lemme know when you will do it next year and I'll do the same. Keep going Marcus and Chief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I've plotted our course and hope to be there in the next few years.

    What do you attribute your success to?
    One thing that I have learned so far is this: Don't give a rat's behind what others are thinking about you. Many people, especially family and friends will think you are stupid. They don't understand the joy of living without debt, to be able to have a life that does not stretch from paycheck to paycheck. They will make fun of the old "Dave-Mobile" you might be driving, they will make fun of your rice and beans, and they will tell you about all the fun things they are doing while you are paying off your debt.

    But in the end, you will be the one that has true freedom.
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    Thanks.

    I'm fortunate in some regards, bought my house, here in NJ 12 years ago. My wife is done with school and her loans are almost gone.

    I've been in a 401k for 10 years and while the value took a hit this year, it's rebounded nicely.

    I'm finishing my lastest degree and not taking any loans to do it.

    Cars. One is paid for and the other we owe a minimal amount on (that payment is more then paid for by the mileage reimbursement for my job).

    This year we started a very ambitious plan to get out of debt and set our goals. It's been a bit of a struggle, but nothing horrible. Next year becomes tremendously easier... and every year after even more so.

    Our goal was that my wife is home with the kids until they go to school, that's a good four years away.

    We should also be out of debt by then (except for the mortgage). At that point, she will go back to work and we will look for a new/bigger house in a nicer neighborhood. Then we start socking money away for college for the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    One thing that I have learned so far is this: Don't give a rat's behind what others are thinking about you.
    So true. Hell, I've seen some extremely well-educated folks say we should buy a house (even though we don't know where we are going to end up in life), that there is "good debt", and even some financial advisors say that you need the tax benefits of student loans and mortgages (nevermind that you get no where near the benefit of them that you pay into them.)

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Many people, especially family and friends will think you are stupid.
    So true. Marcus, how many times have the people you worked with mocked you? I am a cheap pr!ck and I admit it. But I keep getting told by nurses, ED Techs, and other providers that "you can't take it with you."

    And no career is safe from an economic closure, contract cancellation, or whatever. And a HUGE percentage of people that got laid off in the past year or so truly lived paycheck to paycheck and had no savings and now cannot survive on their unemployment because it is half of what they used to live on.

    Act your wage.

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    They don't understand the joy of living without debt, to be able to have a life that does not stretch from paycheck to paycheck.
    So true. The ability to have a 6 month cushion of expenses is incredible and to be able to sock away money is incredible. To not have to worry about paying rent or keeping food on the table for your family is the biggest relief you can have.

    The Mrs. and I talk all the time about feeling like we are in a cult when we listen to Dave Ramsey and Clark Howard and repeat their principles - but you have to totally change your lifestyle to do it. You have to not eat out 3 times a week. Not buy the newest iPhone. Not get the newest car when it comes out. Not buy the biggest house the money the bank gives you can buy. Not use up the maximum money amount the bank will give you.

    I simply liken it to the advice that our grandparents gave us. "Pay cash for it." "If you can't pay cash for it, you don't need it." All of that attitude comes from living through the 1930s and the Depression's economic turmoil and upheaval.

    I have a credit card, and I use it to pay for my living expenses every month - but it is paid off every month. The only reason I use it is because I get cash back so I get an additional benefit of several hundred dollars every year or so. But I still do not like using one.

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    They will make fun of the old "Dave-Mobile" you might be driving, they will make fun of your rice and beans, and they will tell you about all the fun things they are doing while you are paying off your debt.
    Totally. While I know it was bad financial sense, I bought my 2007 4Runner brandidy new simply because I wanted it. No my brightest moment, but I can tell you that I will likely run that tank into the ground. The wife has a 5 year old Subie that ought to last a good while too. They are safe, reliable cars that are sound - so there is no need to have a new vehicle.......Just a want.

    A large percentage of new car loans are spread out over an incredible length of 5 or 6 years. My goal is to be able to go into the dealer in a couple years and say I want this car with these options, and pay cash for it.

    My wife and I eat out a couple times a year and pretty much only as a treat because we are in Boston or on vacation. And we still eat cheaply and get salads and potatoes at Wendy's.

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    But in the end, you will be the one that has true freedom.
    So true. Not being beholden to a faceless bank, credit card company, or freaking Sallie Mae.

    Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I'm fortunate in some regards, bought my house, here in NJ 12 years ago. My wife is done with school and her loans are almost gone.
    Keep going and whack those student loans. Pay off the car (since it is "minimal" owed to it) and then take that reimbursement and money you would use for payment and apply it to the student loans every month. Snowball the money and pay off the loans.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I've been in a 401k for 10 years and while the value took a hit this year, it's rebounded nicely.
    What kills me about the screaming over 401(k) values is that so few people understand that stocks are long-term investments. And while they had no problem with their stock values (falsely) going up they throw a hissy-fit if they lose a penny. But as you have stated, it does rebound. It is a long-term thing. And the closer you get to retirement the more important it is that your debt is eliminated so that you have no expenses when you are retired except for your property taxes and doctor's co-pays.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I'm finishing my lastest degree and not taking any loans to do it.
    The best way to do it Chief. If I only I could have done it, but at least those student loans are paid for now.

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    Cars. One is paid for and the other we owe a minimal amount on (that payment is more then paid for by the mileage reimbursement for my job).
    See above Chief. Thwack that car's loan and pay it off my friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    This year we started a very ambitious plan to get out of debt and set our goals. It's been a bit of a struggle, but nothing horrible. Next year becomes tremendously easier... and every year after even more so.
    So true. And eventually that light you see in the tunnel will change from a train on the tracks to becoming the end of the tunnel.

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    Our goal was that my wife is home with the kids until they go to school, that's a good four years away.
    As long as it is financially viable keep with it. Why pay several hundred bucks a month for the "privilege" of some other person to raise your children so you both can work. And we wonder why our nation is so messed up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    We should also be out of debt by then (except for the mortgage). At that point, she will go back to work and we will look for a new/bigger house in a nicer neighborhood. Then we start socking money away for college for the kids.
    Once the car and student loans are paid off, roll that money into paying for the mortgage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Once the car and student loans are paid off, roll that money into paying for the mortgage.
    The house we are in now is a bit small for us. It was my bachelor home, so it was great when I was single.

    The neighborhood is also not where I want to raise my kids, and that's the biggest reason for us to leave.

    I hope to pay down some of the mortgage before we sell, or put money away for the down on the new house. Not sure which is better.

    A big part of my income is an annual bonus that ranges from 15-20% of my annual salary. It will allow us to take a big step each year towards our goal.

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