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    Quote Originally Posted by malana1 View Post
    Take this with a grain of salt. these are the same idiots who Gave Al Gore a prize for creating mass hysteria over a non-issue.

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    Read the first sentence of the article:

    President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

    The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.

    This is a complete joke. We will begin to see how much of a joke in November. The laughter will grow louder come Nov. 2010. The laughter will be loudest in Nov. 2012.

    One term. That's it.
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    This is MSN's article.

    I highlighted the most incredible part from the twits in Norway.

    It is not for any specific accomplishments, only because he brings "hope." I have to ask......"Hope" for what? Increased debt for our nation? Lack of will to take on rogue states in violation of the U.N.?

    Next year Amadinajad will win for making the bomb so his country will be safe.

    ‘Humbled’ Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
    Committee says president gives world’s people ‘hope for a better future’
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    updated 7:47 a.m. ET, Fri., Oct . 9, 2009
    OSLO, Norway - President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

    The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

    Speculation had focused on Zimbabwe's Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, a Colombian senator and a Chinese dissident, along with an Afghan woman's rights activist.

    The Nobel committee praised Obama's creation of "a new climate in international politics" and said he had returned multilateral diplomacy and institutions like the U.N. to the center of the world stage. The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama's predecessor for resorting to largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

    NBC News reported that White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs called Obama with the news just before 6 a.m. Aides said the president felt "humbled" by the committee's decision.

    'Captured the world's attention'
    Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have yet to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change.

    "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," Thorbjoern Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Committee said. "In the past year Obama has been a key person for important initiatives in the U.N. for nuclear disarmament and to set a completely new agenda for the Muslim world and East-West relations."


    He added that the committee endorsed "Obama's appeal that 'Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.'"

    President Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906 and President Woodrow Wilson won in 1919.

    The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war.


    Five years later, the committee honored Bush's adversary in the 2000 presidential election, Al Gore, for his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.

    The Nobel committee received a record 205 nominations for this year's prize though it was not immediately apparent who nominated Obama.

    "The exciting and important thing about this prize is that it's given too someone ... who has the power to contribute to peace," Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said.

    Nominators include former laureates; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and legislatures; university professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law.


    The Nelson Mandela Foundation welcomed the award on behalf of its founder Nelson Mandela, who shared the 1993 Peace Prize with then-South African President F.W. DeKlerk for their efforts at ending years of apartheid and laying the groundwork for a democratic country.

    "We trust that this award will strengthen his commitment, as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, to continue promoting peace and the eradication of poverty," the foundation said.

    In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

    Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, he said the peace prize should be given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Sweden and Norway were united under the same crown at the time of Nobel's death.

    The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines, expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Read the first sentence of the article:

    President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

    The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.

    This is a complete joke. We will begin to see how much of a joke in November. The laughter will grow louder come Nov. 2010. The laughter will be loudest in Nov. 2012.

    One term. That's it.
    George and I are in 100% agreement with this one. I almost choked on my toothbrush when I heard it on the radio this morning. After I calmed down I realized that this is politics, pure and simple and as Scarecrow wrote, taken with a grain of salt.... well ok maybe a bucket load but its not worth much more than that. Except maybe the book rights at the end of his term.
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    Ya know what...if getting this award makes/helps ANY country agree to something through democracy instead of weapons....I am all for it.

    Of course...I am not holding out any hope for that.
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    Out of all the prizes, the Nobel Peace Price has become very political. This is really no different than Al Gore scoring the win for his little movie. He didn't have any concrete results with the movie, he just raised awareness. Seems like pretty much the same concept here.

    I don't think that something like a Peace Price should be given to any sitting head of state. It just seems like it would create unneeded tension with other countries.

    Another thing that sticks out is this paragraph:

    President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.
    It almost sounds like they gave him the price because he is the anti-Bush. And that would be a pretty stupid reason.

    My biggest surprise though is that nobody has pointed out that Adolf got a peace price too
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    Unless you are talking about something pother than the Nobel Peace Prize, Hitler was nominated in 1939, but the nomination was withdrawn.

    The Nomination Database for the Nobel Prize
    in Peace, 1901-1956
    Year: 1939
    Number: 9-1

    Nominee:
    Name: Adolf Hitler
    Gender: M
    Year, birth: 1889
    Year, death: 1945
    Profession/Category: Chancellor and Führer of Germany (1933-1945).
    City: Berlin
    Country: DE (GERMANY)

    Motivation: Hitler was the leader of the German Nationalist Socialist Party.

    Nominator:

    Name: E.G.C. Brandt
    Gender: M
    Profession/Category: Member of the Swedish parliament
    Country: SE (SWEDEN)

    Evaluation: No

    Comment: The nomination was withdrawn in a letter of February 1, 1939.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Unless you are talking about something pother than the Nobel Peace Prize, Hitler was nominated in 1939, but the nomination was withdrawn.
    Darn my crappy memory.

    I think I got the nomination mixed up with the Time Man of the Year.

    (Remind me not to post without my morning dose of coffee.)
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    Well he must be doing something right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Darn my crappy memory.

    I think I got the nomination mixed up with the Time Man of the Year.

    (Remind me not to post without my morning dose of coffee.)
    It's understandable. You were in the Academy in 1939, weren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golzy12 View Post
    Well he must be doing something right.
    Name it. Better yet, name one tangible thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.

    Well, considering that the nominations were made for this prize last February, it is an absolutely useless and meaningless accomplishment. If we can even call it an accomplishment.

    February – Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates.
    http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html


    This award means nothing at all and is purely political.

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    Silly me, I thought he won for that magic spray he invented........ You know the one that keeps ***** from sticking to him in the media(except Fox that is). I feel bad for the people who won Nobles for legitimate reasons because this makes the whole process a real sham. Nothing like an international hand job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Of course...I am not holding out any hope for that.
    At least you won't be disappointed then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemedic 61 View Post
    I feel bad for the people who won Nobles for legitimate reasons because this makes the whole process a real sham. Nothing like an international hand job!
    Hey, I'll put up with a lot on these forums, but I will not stand by while you badmouth hand jobs
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    This just in...

    David Gregory just announced on Joe Scarborough's show that Pres. Obama has been awarded the 2009 Cy Young Award.
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    Read the next-to-last sentence...

    Obama Accepts Nobel Peace Prize as a 'Call for Action'
    President Becomes Third Sitting U.S. President to Win the Nobel, After Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson
    By HUMA KHAN, YUNJI de NIES and KAREN TRAVERS
    Oct. 9, 2009

    Acknowledging that he was "surprised and deeply humbled" by the news that he had won the Nobel Peace Prize, President Barack Obama today urged the international community to work together on addressing the challenges of the 21st century.

    The Nobel committee cites his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy."I do not feel I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures who have been honored by this prize," Obama said in brief remarks at the White House. "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

    The president said the prize will be used as a means to give momentum, but that no one person or one administration alone can solve all the problems.

    "All nations must take responsibility for the world we seek," the president said. "We cannot tolerate a world in which nuclear weapons spread to more nations. ... We cannot accept the growing threat posed by climate change, which could forever danger the world we pass on to our children. ... We cannot allow the differences between people to allow the way we see one another."

    Stressing the work he has done as commander-in-chief in pulling back forces from Iraq, Obama said that "some of the work confronting us will not be completed during our presidency" and that some work "may not be completed during my lifetime." But he added that he was hopeful the challenges will be met.

    "This award is not about the efforts of my administration, it's about the efforts of people around the world," he said.

    Obama, the third sitting U.S. president to win the prestigious award, will travel to Oslo in December to accept the prize in person.

    The news that Obama was awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize came as a surprise, even to the White House. Press aides said they had heard from news reports weeks ago that the president was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize but they do not believe Obama himself knew of his nomination.

    The deadline for nominations is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days.

    Geir Lundestad, director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute, told "Good Morning America" the decision to pick Obama was unanimous.
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    Great response from Huckabee:

    There will be an outcry from those on the right who will say that Obama's nomination, made two weeks into his Presidency, is impossible to justify but I think such an outcry will sound like right-wing whining. The better response is simply to allow those on the left to explain what he did in his first two weeks as President that merited such recognition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Great response from Huckabee:

    I agree that it is a great response. I just wonder just how many people understand how the selection process goes for the prize, the time line involved, etc...

    The way the story is implied is that the president was nominated and selected based on his actions of the past few months.
    When the reality is that he was nominated very shortly after his election. So hopefully showing the selection process isn't considered to be whining.

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