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    [White House: Fox is 'opinion journalism masquerading as news'

    (CNN) — The Obama White House is ramping up its offensive against Fox News.

    This summer, President Obama signaled his unhappiness with the network. "We've got one television station entirely devoted to attacking my administration."

    Over the past month, that discontent has translated into an all-out war against Fox. Last month, Obama notably skipped a sitdown with Fox as he plugged his health care bill in one-on-one interviews on every other major news network. Earlier this month, the White House published a rare blog post directly attacking a news organization, slamming Fox for its "disregard for the facts" and pointing readers to an independent fact-checking organization that had debunked "more Fox lies."

    Now, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn is questioning whether Fox is in the news business at all. "It's opinion journalism masquerading as news," she told Time of the news network, in an interview released Thursday. Dunn also made it clear this won't be the last White House blast aimed at the network: "They are boosting their audience. But that doesn't mean we are going to sit back."
    Beautiful, Now the chosen one is trying to control the Media as well. What knucklehead fails to realize is that FOX was also critical of Bush. FOX is the only network that actually reports the news and holds no punches. Sounds like Obama can't handle the heat.


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    As we all know,history is written by the winners which makes me worry about how this time period will be viewed with a tame media reporting on his every move.

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    Default Fox gets the last laugh.

    Well I guess Fox gets the last laugh. Did you see the video Glenn Beck released today with Anita Dunn doing exactly what Fox News accused the White House of doing and she denied? The sad think is no one will care!

    Here is the link if you missed it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video0...w.foxnews.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieFire53 View Post
    Well I guess Fox gets the last laugh. Did you see the video Glenn Beck released today with Anita Dunn doing exactly what Fox News accused the White House of doing and she denied? The sad think is no one will care!

    Here is the link if you missed it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video0...w.foxnews.com/
    I don't know, I don't see how Fox gets the last laugh off this clip.

    Most of it was nothing but an over the top ranting by Beck and very little substance regarding Ms. Dunn.

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    As I watched the clip I was thinking how Beck brought balance to CNN and hence credibility. And then I was more than alarmed by a person who said Mao Tse Tong was a guiding figure. Scary people we have up there on the hill for sure.

    But even more alarming for all of us is the fact that the White House is attempting to control the press This is unprecedented in our history. Very honestly, I thought Obama was someone you could trust, I didn't like is socialist agenda, but I felt you could trust the man. Now I'm not even so sure about that. 37 months and counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    But even more alarming for all of us is the fact that the White House is attempting to control the press
    How is he controlling the press?

    Is he pulling Fox off the air? Is the FCC fining them for anything? Is their license being revoked? Is Obama controlling their stories? Do they have to submit all their stories to Government censors?

    If Fox can be critical of the President, then the President has the same right to be critical of Fox. There is a big difference between talking about Fox and not giving them an interview, and "controlling the press". It is getting clearer and clearer that the people who are always complaining about us becoming an "oppressive government" have never really seen what an oppressive government really does.

    I personally believe that the best defense is a strong offense, and engaging Fox would be a better policy than avoiding them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    How is he controlling the press?

    Is he pulling Fox off the air? Is the FCC fining them for anything? Is their license being revoked? Is Obama controlling their stories? Do they have to submit all their stories to Government censors?

    If Fox can be critical of the President, then the President has the same right to be critical of Fox. There is a big difference between talking about Fox and not giving them an interview, and "controlling the press". It is getting clearer and clearer that the people who are always complaining about us becoming an "oppressive government" have never really seen what an oppressive government really does.

    I personally believe that the best defense is a strong offense, and engaging Fox would be a better policy than avoiding them.
    Poor man... don't you know that bringing the truth into this thread only will label you a crybaby libtard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvfd27 View Post
    Poor man... don't you know that bringing the truth into this thread only will label you a crybaby libtard?
    Truth? He doesn't can't even form a coherent thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    How is he controlling the press?

    Is he pulling Fox off the air? Is the FCC fining them for anything? Is their license being revoked? Is Obama controlling their stories? Do they have to submit all their stories to Government censors?

    If Fox can be critical of the President, then the President has the same right to be critical of Fox. There is a big difference between talking about Fox and not giving them an interview, and "controlling the press". It is getting clearer and clearer that the people who are always complaining about us becoming an "oppressive government" have never really seen what an oppressive government really does.

    I personally believe that the best defense is a strong offense, and engaging Fox would be a better policy than avoiding them.
    Can you say unprecedented. Did Bush whine when the MSM lied about him and his policies. Nope. Chairman Obama is telling the people not to listen to FOX because in his opinion they lie. The real issue is Obama can't handle the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireinfo10 View Post
    Truth? He doesn't can't even form a coherent thought.
    Said the kettle to the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Can you say unprecedented. Did Bush whine when the MSM lied about him and his policies. Nope. Chairman Obama is telling the people not to listen to FOX because in his opinion they lie. The real issue is Obama can't handle the truth.
    You know, I had a big long response to this, but this is getting so pointless. I erased my response to your rambling to simply post my question again:

    How is he controlling the press?

    Is he pulling Fox off the air? Is the FCC fining them for anything? Is their license being revoked? Is Obama controlling their stories? Do they have to submit all their stories to Government censors?
    Whining about what they are reporting about you might make you look like a baby who cannot handle the heat, but it is pretty dang far from "controlling the media". Obama might tell people "Fox is lying", but is he preventing people from being able to access the news from Fox?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    You know, I had a big long response to this, but this is getting so pointless. I erased my response to your rambling to simply post my question again:



    Whining about what they are reporting about you might make you look like a baby who cannot handle the heat, but it is pretty dang far from "controlling the media". Obama might tell people "Fox is lying", but is he preventing people from being able to access the news from Fox?
    OK, let me rephrase, he is not in total control of the network. However, they have dedicated an entire team of people to watching FOX and they are attempting to influence what is being reported. All past Presidents simply let the press do as they please and didn't attack any of them. Unfortunately, the news media has lots its moral and ethical roots. Its now all about sensationalism and pandering to your favorite political view, be it which president, health care reform, immigration reform, or Global Warming. Rather than report the truth and the entire story they make it read the way they want to.

    Obama has chosen to go to war with FOX. He wants to discredit them and get them to report what he wants hem to report. There are many blind followers of this president, probably more so than Clinton had. They believe everything he says. The president has a great deal of influence and to use that influence to encourage people to listen to one media outlet over another is simply wrong, immoral, and unethical.

    Heck if wants to battle with someone why not the Koreans or Iranians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    OK, let me rephrase, he is not in total control of the network. However, they have dedicated an entire team of people to watching FOX and they are attempting to influence what is being reported. All past Presidents simply let the press do as they please and didn't attack any of them. Unfortunately, the news media has lots its moral and ethical roots. Its now all about sensationalism and pandering to your favorite political view, be it which president, health care reform, immigration reform, or Global Warming. Rather than report the truth and the entire story they make it read the way they want to.

    Obama has chosen to go to war with FOX. He wants to discredit them and get them to report what he wants hem to report. There are many blind followers of this president, probably more so than Clinton had. They believe everything he says. The president has a great deal of influence and to use that influence to encourage people to listen to one media outlet over another is simply wrong, immoral, and unethical.

    Heck if wants to battle with someone why not the Koreans or Iranians.
    Go read up on Venezuela for example. Maybe you will realize that there is a difference between being a crybaby and complaining about the media making you look bad, and forcefully taking control of the media. Obama is being a crybaby, he is not seizing control of Fox from Murdoch.

    I'm going to guess that his "blind followers" haven't really watched much Fox to begin with.

    What about recent reports by Bush's White House Press Secretary McClellan that the Bush administration was leaking "Talking Points" to Fox News Commentators to give them inside reports and allow them to paint the Administration in a positive light?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pvfd27 View Post
    Poor man... don't you know that bringing the truth into this thread only will label you a crybaby libtard?
    No kid. Making statements that you are passing off as fact and not having the desire, will, or capability to substantiate those statements gets you labeled as such.

    Many on these forums back up their statements. A few do not. Marcus offers some evidence to support his statements - regardless of the side from which he is posting. They also do not criticize the sourcees that are used when they have used them to make their points, a-la scfire86.

    You ought to pay attention more and you might realize this. It is what smart, intelligent, and educated people do. It is borne from life experience.
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    The President of the United States of America should have more important things to do that have people watch ONE network that doesn't kiss up to him as well as he thinks they should.
    Working on his Nobel Prize acceptance speech for getting elected,figuring out who to blame for not getting an Olympics nod this year,walking the dog,you can see he has better things to do.
    You can see that his life is a Terri Clark song.
    If FOX News is so irrelevant,why is the White House even concerned about it?That's what I want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    No kid. Making statements that you are passing off as fact and not having the desire, will, or capability to substantiate those statements gets you labeled as such.

    Many on these forums back up their statements. A few do not. Marcus offers some evidence to support his statements - regardless of the side from which he is posting. They also do not criticize the sourcees that are used when they have used them to make their points, a-la scfire86.

    You ought to pay attention more and you might realize this. It is what smart, intelligent, and educated people do. It is borne from life experience.
    So are you saying that I'm not a libtard ?

    On this particular issue I'm divided, which seems to be my stand on a lot of issues anymore. I do try to post sources that influence my opinion on different subjects, and I do try to abstain from ScFire type attacks. I know "some" people on here would always call me a libtard just because I have leanings to the left of the political divide. But I think there is a big difference between the political leaning, and the person who has those leanings.

    For example: DaSharkie, George, and ScareCrow have a very similar stand on a lot of political issues. 2 out of 3 are able to articulate the reasoning for their beliefs, and while I disagree with them on many issues I do really believe that they are knowledgeable and I respect them. I'll let you figure out who the 2 are .

    My main reason for replying in this thread is this:

    I do think that Obama is being a bit of a crybaby about this whole thing. Fox has just a little over 50% of the market share, the "liberal" news have the other half. So both sides are able to get their opinion-influenced news/editorials out there.

    Do I think that his whining about it equals a "takeover of the press and suppression of the freedom of press"? - That would be a big and resounding "No".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    No kid. Making statements that you are passing off as fact and not having the desire, will, or capability to substantiate those statements gets you labeled as such.

    Many on these forums back up their statements. A few do not. Marcus offers some evidence to support his statements - regardless of the side from which he is posting. They also do not criticize the sourcees that are used when they have used them to make their points, a-la scfire86.

    You ought to pay attention more and you might realize this. It is what smart, intelligent, and educated people do. It is borne from life experience.
    Um...Read your 2nd paragraph, 4th sentence. Then, quickly drop down to your last paragraph. Can we say hypocrite??

    I know this may be a difficult concept to grasp, but I was joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    If FOX News is so irrelevant,why is the White House even concerned about it?That's what I want to know.
    Because they are afraid that people are going to realize the other news channels aren't reporting the truth. More and more people are turning the channel to FOX as the liberal loving Palm Beach Post reported. FOX is a thorn in the side of the Obama admin and the Democratic party. I am a firm believer that if it wasn't for FOX news ACORN would never have been exposed, Van Jones would still be in the admin and the "public option" wouldn't be a dividing line in this country. It's funny how people forget how critical FOX was of Bush. You know I even saw an article on the National Enquirer front page while in line at the grocery store that read along the lines of Obama want Beck silenced at any cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemedic 61 View Post
    You know I even saw an article on the National Enquirer front page...
    You could have stopped reading right there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    You could have stopped reading right there...
    Not that I believe ANYTHING they say, it just goes along with the topic. Tell me YOU don't honestly skim the headlines in the checkout isle while you wait and I'll sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.

    My point is that FOX covers issues that rest of the Obama loving media refuses to so his admin takes aim at them.
    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.

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