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    I'm looking for some photo's of short-jacking a ladder truck. I'm having a debate at work.

    I have seen it but I dont know where... but a ladder truck with stablilizers that go straight down and not out....

    Any help would be appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    I'm looking for some photo's of short-jacking a ladder truck. I'm having a debate at work.

    I have seen it but I dont know where... but a ladder truck with stablilizers that go straight down and not out....

    Any help would be appreciated
    How about this one...

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    Only type I've ever seen with such outriggers.
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    The E-One MM towers have straight down jacks with one set of "outriggers". Our ALF MM can be short jacked with one side's outriggers straight down as long as the working side is fully extended. Obviously rotation is limited to the side with full extension, preventing the issue Gonzo is showing above.

    Hit the apparatus innovation forum, I'm sure many in there can give you any detail needed for your quandary, likely with pictures as well.

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    Are we talking about a Tower Ladder or an Aerial?

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    E-One HP78 can straight short jack using down jacks only on both sides and operate within a specific side to side range.

    http://www.e-one.com/files/products/specs/87.pdf

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    Here is some photos of our Rosenbauer Raptor. I can get you some pictures of the out riggers straight down if you want. You can put all four straight down and still have 360 rotation a workable hight. I took these pictures when I was trying to set it up in areas that would be hard for us.
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    Don't have any pics handy but our Bronto can short jack as can our new Pierce 75' Quints. Just have to work off the full jack side only. Pierce or Eone may have pics of those you could get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleWickman View Post
    Here is some photos of our Rosenbauer Raptor. I can get you some pictures of the out riggers straight down if you want. You can put all four straight down and still have 360 rotation a workable hight. I took these pictures when I was trying to set it up in areas that would be hard for us.
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    Sorry, I think he was looking for pictures of an actual truck company short jacking. This doesn't qualify.

    Hhahaa just kidding. But seriously, all other issues I have with Metz aside, that's great how short it can be jacked...I'm really impressed.

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    I have some pictures of a Donkey Punch and a few Rusty Trombones but no Short Jacking pics. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    I have some pictures of a Donkey Punch and a few Rusty Trombones but no Short Jacking pics. Sorry.
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    Here are a few more with the jacks going straight down. The pic with the 2 guys in the bucket was out 50' with both sides short jacked at 0 degrees. Photobucket

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    Another Madison...
    http://www.dpcemergency.com/files/ro...rrisburg_5.jpg

    Here's another one
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    You can somewhat tell the truck is short-jacked on the driver side. I know have more laying around, I just need to find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    How about this one...


    Or this one-


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    LOL yea what he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    Or this one-


    Bou, Thanks for posting this pic. Just in front of the Gut on third guy on the right is the Rear Jack, which wasn't down. Sutphen's Rear Jacks are strictly Vertical, remaining in line with the edge of the body. The Front Jacks will extend as much as 60 inches sideways on some models. Personal Opinion only: If the Rear Jacks would have been down, the thing wouldn't have capsized. Why?..... Because with the Jacks still in the Cradle, the "Overreach" Alarm wouldn't function. At least thats the way it was on our '70 Sutphen Tower.
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    Just a side note- Its been my understanding Suphen has always made a really good aerial truck. Looking at the above picture, I am guessing the damage was minimal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    Just a side note- Its been my understanding Suphen has always made a really good aerial truck. Looking at the above picture, I am guessing the damage was minimal?
    We Agree. Look at the Compartment Door in the photo of the right side of the unit.....
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    IIRC, they had to have the unit pulled upright by a wrecker/crane, but then were able to have the aerial re certified without much trouble. The new Sutphen's won't let you do anything without the jacks being down. If you want to raise the ladder to load hose, you can drop the rear jacks only, but you need to have a guy pushing the override button on both the turn table and the jack setup panel. And then the truck won't let you rotate either way. Kind of makes what happened in Ohio next to impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoaddoggAK View Post
    IIRC, they had to have the unit pulled upright by a wrecker/crane, but then were able to have the aerial re certified without much trouble. The new Sutphen's won't let you do anything without the jacks being down. If you want to raise the ladder to load hose, you can drop the rear jacks only, but you need to have a guy pushing the override button on both the turn table and the jack setup panel. And then the truck won't let you rotate either way. Kind of makes what happened in Ohio next to impossible.

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