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    Quote Originally Posted by frankbarnes166 View Post
    So I just got denied from another dept because of two underage drinking tickets i received 7 years ago. Does anyone know what the policy is at Saint Paul on this sort of thing? I was gonna call HR but thought i'd ask here first.
    Honestly,I think that would be your best option to call HR and ask. If it was me I would want the question to be answered straight from them since they have a part on deciding to hire you or not. If you find out their policy on this from them; there will be no question if you should or shouldnt move on with the testing process due to your past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by residents View Post
    At that time the written test was a by a company called CWH. Not sure if they will use that again but if they do its a hard test to study for because it was mostly a pshycological test. Test was around 150 questions and took about 3 hours. I had taken it before other places so I was familiar with it.

    The interview was a panel of two firefighters, a human resources person and a civil service person. After the conditional offer i went back for a psyc. and backround interview at an office in minneapolis.

    They are giving a different test this year. I guess this time they are using a test by EB-Jacobs. It is 300+ questions and they are giving us 3hrs 45min to complete it. But around 200 of those questions are simple agree, disagree, etc. type of questions.

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    I attended a test prep session recently and thought I'd share some things I picked up for those who can't make it to one. If you can make it to one though I would recommend it, there was a firefighter and a rep from the test company there to answer people's questions.

    The time limit on the test is 3:45. There are three sections of questions: Ability Test (48 Q's), Work Style Questionnaire (224 Q's), and Life Experience Survey (96 Q's). The Work Style and Life Experience sections aren't anything you can study for other than reviewing your school/work history for the last two years. These are just questions about your self that you need to answer HONESTLY (this was stressed).

    As for hiring numbers, the department is "fat" right now because they are fully staffed and just hired a new recruit class of 20 that graduated just last Friday. (Chief Butler took part in the acadamy and blogged about his experience, I'll put the link below)

    We were told though that they could possibly hire as many as 100 over the life of the list. There are apparently 75 firefighters currently eligible for retirement, and they are hoping to add BLS rigs in the near future.

    And if you're not already preparing for the physical test, START! While 7 minutes is a passing score, you need to shoot for under 4 if you want to remain competitive.

    Once again, GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!

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    Anyone flying in want to split a hotel room. Or better yet, i'd love it if someone could put me up on their couch for the night. I can drive to the testing site or buy you a case of beer.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankbarnes166 View Post
    Anyone flying in want to split a hotel room. Or better yet, i'd love it if someone put me up on their couch for the night. I can drive to the testing site or buy you a case of beer.

    Thanks
    I'm flying in, but the week before the test to spend time with the family while I'm up there.... Where you coming in from Frank?

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    Colorado. I haven't bought a ticket yet. I'm on the fence. I scored a 97 on FDNY's last test but that translated into a list number of 4400 because of no preference points. I'm worried the same will happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankbarnes166 View Post
    Colorado. I haven't bought a ticket yet. I'm on the fence. I scored a 97 on FDNY's last test but that translated into a list number of 4400 because of no preference points. I'm worried the same will happen again.
    I hear ya man, I doubt this test will have the trun out FDNY does though. Im sure it will be atleast 1,000 or so, but thats better odds than the FDNY!! Plus if you dont make a attempt your chances will be zero...

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    The city's website states that they received 2,360 approved applicants for the upcoming process.

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    Getting close to test day so I figured I would give this thread a bump....

    Good luck to everyone come Monday morning!

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    Does anybody know how many actually showed up to take the test? I thought I heard 2000...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grufm003 View Post
    Does anybody know how many actually showed up to take the test? I thought I heard 2000...
    I thought the lady that was giving the instructions say 1,600...

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    Weird that so many people would pay $25 to apply and not show up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grufm003 View Post
    Weird that so many people would pay $25 to apply and not show up
    The way I see it is, it's their loss and betters my chances to get on the dept. I want. The city made like $56,000 off of application fees. Im sure that covered the mentor sessions and the cost to rent the exhibit halls at the River Centre.

    Its going to be a long few weeks to see what we scored on the written!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCCFD41 View Post
    Its going to be a long few weeks to see what we scored on the written!!
    Did anybody catch word on when we will actually be getting the results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickk2003 View Post
    Did anybody catch word on when we will actually be getting the results?
    That and does anyone know if we get a simple Pass/Fail or do they include your score in the results?

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    I think she did say 1600, but she mentioned a ballroom somewhere that I guess more people were in.

    We should get an actual score, 75 is passing.

    Last time around, everyone that passed the written and physical tests got a letter showing how many people participated in each phase.

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    If I remember right when I took the test in '05 for St. Paul it took about 3 weeks and we received our actual scores, not just a Pass/Fail. The first letters that go out are for the people who didn't pass, so at this point I'd be hoping not to get a letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickk2003 View Post
    Did anybody catch word on when we will actually be getting the results?
    I thought I heard her say 2 -3 weeks...

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    I believe they said there was about 1500 in the downstairs and another 500 upstairs

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    1,952 applicants took the written exam on March 8, 2010. Candidates will receive their score in the mail within 4 weeks from the date of the exam.
    (straight from the City website)
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    "I strongly believe that you must score at least a combined score of 95 to have a chance."

    I took a station tour some time ago before the exam on 3/8. One of the firefighters helping out with the tour told a group of us that SPFD did not hire anyone on the 2005 list that scored below 95%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser10 View Post
    "I strongly believe that you must score at least a combined score of 95 to have a chance."

    I took a station tour some time ago before the exam on 3/8. One of the firefighters helping out with the tour told a group of us that SPFD did not hire anyone on the 2005 list that scored below 95%.
    Was that written or overall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamWest View Post
    Was that written or overall?
    Overall. There was a collective groan when we heard that stat. But, I'm glad I caught it because it emphasized the importance of studying for the written. I think I should have had my wife hide my PS2, though.
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    So far, the powers that be haven't bastardized the test to the point of an individual putting the effort required, can't help themselves greatly in the process.
    It will be the physical agility test that will separate those that worked from those that just look at this as a job. I highly recommend you do what it takes to get the 100 points on it. You would greatly improve your chances if you are able to complete it under 3 minutes. Which is very possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser10 View Post
    Overall. There was a collective groan when we heard that stat. But, I'm glad I caught it because it emphasized the importance of studying for the written. I think I should have had my wife hide my PS2, though.
    That was a different test though, you couldn't really study for this last one.

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