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    Default St. Paul, MN Fire Department - 2010 Hiring Process

    The City of Saint Paul will be accepting applications for Firefighter on January 4, 2010 through 4:30 p.m. on January 29, 2010.


    Firefighter Requirements
    - High School Graduation or GED
    - Must be 18 years old
    - Valid Minnesota Class D driver's license, or equivalent out-of-state driver's license. The driver's license must have no suspensions or revocations for driving-related offenses, within the two year period prior to the date of hire. Suspensions for parking-related offenses are excluded.
    - Current State of Minnesota Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) certification. Candidates may participate in the testing process and be placed on the eligible list without submitting proof of EMT certification. However, EMT certification is required prior to the date of hire. No candidate will be appointed to the position of Firefighter without possession of EMT certification.


    2010 Firefighter Salary
    The 3-month Academy, Firefighter Trainee Salary is $1,453 (Bi-weekly)

    Firefighter Annual Salary after the Academy:
    Starting: $47,419
    3-year: $59,458
    5-year: $61,852


    Check this website frequently for updated details on the Hiring Process for 2010!
    http://www.stpaul.gov/index.aspx?NID=1845


    General Information such as Stations, pictures, statistics, and public education
    http://www.stpaul.gov/index.aspx?nid=197

    IAFF Local 21 website
    http://www.iafflocal21.org/

    Any questions, comments, concerns, etc. that you may have please feel free to ask! I, along with others, will answer them as best as we can for you.
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    Default Mentor or guide

    I'm looking for someone to talk to on St. Paul fire to help me out with the process. I'm not looking for a shoe in or someone to say a good word for me. I'm just looking for someone to make sure I have all my ducks in a row. Help prepare me for the interview process by doing mock interviews, and just some good ol helpful advice. Firefighting is one of my biggest passions. I started by volunteerin out of high school, and did five years of wildland firefighting in Sequoia National Forest. I miss it, and want to get back into it. I'm willing to do what it takes to get the job.
    Amos

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolat06 View Post
    I'm looking for someone to talk to on St. Paul fire to help me out with the process. I'm not looking for a shoe in or someone to say a good word for me. I'm just looking for someone to make sure I have all my ducks in a row. Help prepare me for the interview process by doing mock interviews, and just some good ol helpful advice. Firefighting is one of my biggest passions. I started by volunteerin out of high school, and did five years of wildland firefighting in Sequoia National Forest. I miss it, and want to get back into it. I'm willing to do what it takes to get the job.
    Amos
    I don't know about helping you out with mock interviews, etc. but I will definitely answer any questions, concerns, etc. you have! Ask away.

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    Question... How hard is it to get resiprosity for out of state EMT in MN. Im looking at the possibility of moving back and will be applying for SPF. Just curious if anyone knows the process and how much work is involed (not that it matters, Im willing to do it).....

    Thanks

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    Default what ifs

    I have to get these out of the way and maybe I'm just looking in to this too much. I know any job in the fire service has a pretty crazy background check and stuff. My record is clean which is something I'm not even worried about I never even had a ticket. I'm concerned about my academic record is hasn't been the best, but there are some circumstances behind it. Is that something that is going to make or break me. Or should I be thinking more of the KISS mentality and worry about passing the written and physical test and worry about other situations when they arise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolat06 View Post
    I have to get these out of the way and maybe I'm just looking in to this too much. I know any job in the fire service has a pretty crazy background check and stuff. My record is clean which is something I'm not even worried about I never even had a ticket. I'm concerned about my academic record is hasn't been the best, but there are some circumstances behind it. Is that something that is going to make or break me. Or should I be thinking more of the KISS mentality and worry about passing the written and physical test and worry about other situations when they arise?
    I would focus on the written and the physical test. Academics wont make or break you, not to worry. Did you graduate High School/GED?

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    yes I did in 2001

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolat06 View Post
    yes I did in 2001
    Then you should be just fine. Don't worry about academics, as long as you have a High School Diploma or GED you will meet the recruitment's.

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    If I have taken and passed the NREMT-B exam and have an Illinois license as an EMT-B will that qualify for the Minnesota EMT? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sTages19 View Post
    If I have taken and passed the NREMT-B exam and have an Illinois license as an EMT-B will that qualify for the Minnesota EMT? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions!


    Current State of Minnesota Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) certification is required. Candidates may participate in the testing process and be placed on the eligible list without submitting proof of EMT certification. However, EMT certification is required prior to the date of hire. No candidate will be appointed to the position of Firefighter without possession of EMT certification. You may

    Not a problem. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

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    What if any residency requirments are there? How does the Iaff feel about being a vol for a community?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREINSTR View Post
    What if any residency requirments are there? How does the Iaff feel about being a vol for a community?
    There are no residency requirements. Although the vote for giving an addition 5 points to those candidates currently living in St. Paul is going through our Council right now. 5 points for residency (possibly), and 5 points for Veterans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREINSTR View Post
    What if any residency requirments are there? How does the Iaff feel about being a vol for a community?
    There are no residency requirements. Although the vote for giving an addition 5 points to those candidates currently living in St. Paul is going through our Council right now. 5 points for residency (possibly), and 5 points for Veterans.

    What do you mean by how do they feel? You mean while your on St. Paul being a volley? Or having prior experience as a volley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFD17 View Post
    There are no residency requirements. Although the vote for giving an addition 5 points to those candidates currently living in St. Paul is going through our Council right now. 5 points for residency (possibly), and 5 points for Veterans.

    What do you mean by how do they feel? You mean while your on St. Paul being a volley? Or having prior experience as a volley?
    I am a current vol on the west side of the cites and if allowed would consider staying on if IAFF allows it. I have heard some unions will not allow you to be full time and a vol in your community.
    Also I work for a local burn team what are you thoughts on that with regards to the IAFF

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREINSTR View Post
    I am a current vol on the west side of the cites and if allowed would consider staying on if IAFF allows it. I have heard some unions will not allow you to be full time and a vol in your community.
    Also I work for a local burn team what are you thoughts on that with regards to the IAFF
    You can be both a volunteer FF white being a full time FF for St. Paul

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    Does anyone know what kind of numbers St. Paul has seen in the past?

    How many applicants? (2000? 10,000?)

    For how many posistions? (10? 50?)

    Obviously I'm just looking for rough estimates here, not specifics.

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    SPFD17,
    I'm heading to this physical ability test orientation, I want to come dressed ready to work out right? It didn't say anything on the paper that they gave me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secmas12 View Post
    Does anyone know what kind of numbers St. Paul has seen in the past?

    How many applicants? (2000? 10,000?)

    For how many posistions? (10? 50?)

    Obviously I'm just looking for rough estimates here, not specifics.
    They have the 2005 info on the site. 2,002 applied but only 1,388 showed up to take the written. I imagine it'll be higher this time around with so many people out of work in their fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolat06 View Post
    SPFD17,
    I'm heading to this physical ability test orientation, I want to come dressed ready to work out right? It didn't say anything on the paper that they gave me.

    Yes I would wear comfortable clothing that you can work out, run, and do the physical events in to all of the physical practice days, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secmas12 View Post
    Does anyone know what kind of numbers St. Paul has seen in the past?

    How many applicants? (2000? 10,000?)

    For how many posistions? (10? 50?)

    Obviously I'm just looking for rough estimates here, not specifics.

    Here's the information from the 2005 Hiring Process.

    http://www.stpaul.gov/index.aspx?NID=1848

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    Talking possession of EMT certification

    "No candidate will be appointed to the position of Firefighter without possession of EMT certification." Strange just have EMT-B and be a pop out for that but not so for fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlj1958 View Post
    "No candidate will be appointed to the position of Firefighter without possession of EMT certification." Strange just have EMT-B and be a pop out for that but not so for fire.
    What did you just say? Your wording confused me.

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    I was wondering where i can find information on ISO ratings and stuff like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolat06 View Post
    I was wondering where i can find information on ISO ratings and stuff like that
    Not entirely sure where you can find those exactly. I know we have our Run Statistics, Fire Stations and their individual Apparatus, etc. on the left hand column of our Fire and Safety Homepage.

    http://www.stpaul.gov/index.aspx?nid=197

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    Default Current State of Minnesota EMT-B

    SP demands applicants have Current State of Minnesota Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) certification prior to date of hire. However no such demand is required for Firefighter I and Firefighter II. Likewise everyone is going to be in the 3-month academy. So why not start every new applicant from scratch as if they had no certifications what so ever. Pop out was a reference to Montgomery County MD FF's from the late 80's and early 90's who had backgrounds as firefighters and EMT-A's who conducted the challenge process while in the academy due to having such backgrounds. If they were successful they went right out to the work force and graduated with the class when everyone finished the academy. To the best of my knowledge it is no longer conducted perhaps due to improper methods and field applications of medical standards used for shortcuts.

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