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    Hey guys,
    Im a fire fighter in Australia(southern hemisphere) i was watching an american firefighter tying knots on youtube and my parents said that because hes in the northen hemisphere that if i try tying them in australia that they wont hold correctly.

    can some one please help me with this problem?

    cheers ryan.


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    Your parents are right. You should probably just give up now.

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    Your parents are correct. Because Australia is upside down, the gravitational pull from the moon effects the way that knots work.
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    Flip your computer screen upside down to get the proper perspective.
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    You guys are really knot helpful

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    I don't know if this is a troll or knot.
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    the Coriolis effect makes it so knots wont work in different hemispheres. Just be thankful you aren't a firefighter in Ecuador. Those guys need to learn northern and southern hemisphere knots, and need to change knots depending on what side of the equator they are on.

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    A lot of this depends upon whether it's kernmantle or twisted rope (laid rope). If it's kernmantle, then it depends upon whether the kern is made with levorotary or dextrorotary Nylon- the mantle (the exterior braid) doesn't matter quite so much, so normally a racemic mixture is used for that. If it's twist Nylon, you get what you paid for.

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    Thumbs up Hmmm....................

    You Guys are KNOT very helpful. So in order not to upset the Apple Cart, I'm KNOT going to be either.....



    Ryan, Tie the Knots, see if they work or Knot........
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    Talking Huh.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    the Coriolis effect .........

    Would you enlighten the Masses here as to just what a Toyota Coriolis has to do with this?? Or Knot??........
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    I think you guys are gonna scare this guy off!! lol He'll never come back here for help again!
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    You guys are KNOT funny. All of these dumb ideas are TYING up valuable bandwidth. You are going to ROPE this kid into thinking bad thing!
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    http://www.animatedknots.com

    This site helped me along with practicing every shift

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckie101 View Post
    A lot of this depends upon whether it's kernmantle or twisted rope (laid rope). If it's kernmantle, then it depends upon whether the kern is made with levorotary or dextrorotary Nylon- the mantle (the exterior braid) doesn't matter quite so much, so normally a racemic mixture is used for that. If it's twist Nylon, you get what you paid for.
    No, no, if he's using laid rope the design of the rope is crucial. In the Northern Hemisphere the twist is counter-clockwise, in the Southern Hemisphere it's clockwise. Unless they accidentally ordered some counterclockwise twisted rope, he should be OK.
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    If you turn around and face the opposite direction the FF on you tube is facing and then face a mirror and follow your hands in the mirror, the knots should be OK

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    Red face

    Has to be a vollie......
    (thumping head against keyboard at sheer stupidity of Q)

    Go purchase Mountaineering: Freedom of the Hills....read and then re-read, then use to slap both parents! - this great book does explain the different ways of rope construction and which type should be used for certain application!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMtnsFF View Post
    Has to be a vollie......
    Umm, excuse me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Umm, excuse me?
    Ditto.....
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    sorry guys should have rephrased that--a bushie!

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    I was gonna say some dumbass foreigner.......
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