Humat Valves (four-ways) for hydrants
Hey guys, I'm putting the feelers out there for feedback. My department is integrating a "Humat" valve (four-way type device) into our fire-ground ops. We use 5" supply hose on everything. The reason; we've had a few fires, where it was a long lay, but nobody boosted pressure from a low hydrant resulting in low pressure. So now, this device will be on every 5" hose in the city and hooked up at every fire.
The proposal is the first due will lay in dry (or leave a man at the plug, depending on staffing), with the second making the connection and boosting through the appliance (after device is connected to hydrant, there are two connections left to be made, one goes into your engine and the other from the engine back to the device, then you switch the lever on the top to divert the flow of water).
Right now, first due engine doesn't establish their own water supply unless it's a hand lay situation. They go straight to a "fast attack", attempting a knockdown on tank water and the 2nd due lays a line.
I'm not saying our current procedures are right or wrong, just saying that this is the way things have gone for decades. Now, times are changing.
For those departments out there that use these devices (or concept), what's been your experiences with them? Also, just in general, who lays a line? 1st due, 2nd due. 3rd due? Do they lay it dry, or leave someone at the plug to turn it in?
Originally Posted by MemphisE34a
WHAT HE SAID!........ ABSOLUTELY!
Our First Engine Lays to the Front of the Fire Building, Second picks up the Hydrant and pumps the line to the First.
Third Lays to the Rear, Fourth picks up the line and Pumps to the Third.
First Truck to the Front, Second to the Rear.
Squad to the Front.
Oh, and the hydrant thingy??.... Not Here...... :D
Honest Answer: We tried Humats and Meushaws years ago, NOBODY liked them, and some pump operators would take them off the Hydrant before hooking up....... Although we've gotten away from it somewhat, in the past we ran Two Engines together a lot. The First would have a full Crew, and the Second would have a Driver and any bodies that couldn't fit on the first Piece. With Two Engines always working together, we had an unbeatable Water Supply Plan.