Regulations for mounting air bottles?

[CME]

My department currently has an 8 bottle mobile cascade system that has been fit into the back of an ambulance that had been taken out of service. We are wanting to build a rack along side the the wall in order to store full bottles.

The only question I have, is if there are any regulations regarding the mounting of the spare bottles. There is a pass thru window between the cab and the box, so we are questioning whether or not they need to be in a compartment or something similiar.

thanks in advance

[GTRider245]

From what I can tell there is no standard for ths cascade system itself, just one for the qaulity of air that comes out of it.

[CME]

We have the cascade system in service, but we want to store spare full SCBA bottles in the truck to depoly on scene. We are unsure whether they have to be secured in such a way that if for some reason they're was a rollover, the spare bottles would not move.

[GTRider245]

What way are you considering mounting them where they wouldnt be secured?

[Bones42]

Really curious here...but why would you need a regulation to tell you to properly store bottles?


Isn't that simple common sense...

[GregMasters]

If you really need a regulation, try this, from 49 CFR 177.840:

§ 177.840 Class 2 (gases) materials.
(See also § 177.834 (a) to (j).)
(a) Floors or platforms essentially flat.
Cylinders containing Class 2 (gases)
materials shall not be loaded onto any
part of the floor or platform of any
motor vehicle which is not essentially
flat; cylinders containing Class 2
(gases) materials may be loaded onto
any motor vehicle not having a floor or
platform only if such motor vehicle be
equipped with suitable racks having
adequate means for securing such cylinders
in place therein. Nothing contained
in this section shall be so construed
as to prohibit the loading of
such cylinders on any motor vehicle
having a floor or platform and racks as
hereinbefore described.

and:
(1) Cylinders. Cylinders containing
Class 2 gases must be securely restrained
in an upright or horizontal position,
loaded in racks, or packed in
boxes or crates to prevent the cylinders
from being shifted, overturned or ejected
from the motor vehicle under normal
transportation conditions. However,
after December 31, 2003, a pressure
relief device, when installed, must
be in communication with the vapor
space of a cylinder containing a Division
2.1 (flammable gas) material.

Obviously, the flammable stuff won't apply to compressed air - but the cylinders still need to be securely restrained, etc.

[johnny46]

You can only mount bottles in Nevada, and the bottles must be licensed by the state.

[CME]

We were thinking of several ways to securely mount them, but we were unsure if they had to be mounted a certain way.

We were considering 2 options:

-building an enclosure with individual sleeves for each bottle, and a one piece top to cover them all

-using the pull away style mounts

[FWDbuff]

You can only mount bottles in Nevada, and the bottles must be licensed by the state.

You are my hero.

[LVFD301]

You can only mount bottles in Nevada, and the bottles must be licensed by the state.

Don't they also have to be inspected periodically by a medical doctor?

[PaladinKnight]

How about something like this?



Just add a door with a latch.

[snowball]

You can only mount bottles in Nevada, and the bottles must be licensed by the state.

Well played sir.

[CME]

How about something like this?

Attachment 17690

Just add a door with a latch.

That's pretty much exactly what we had in mind, but i didn't want to put the effort into making it, and it not be complient with some rule that would cause us to redo it.

[GTRider245]

Just use common sense and you should be fine.

[RFD21C]

use bungee cords and shoe laces.

[BryanLoader]

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