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    Found mine yesterday morning at 7:00 am. For a new tanker! Replacing a very worn 1968! I found the 2009 award number in my 1199a from a award in 2004. Question I have is that they didn't email me and the banking account information needs changed on it, how can I achieve this?

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    When you are contacted in regards to your potential award (either via e-mail or telephone) explain to the Specialist that your 1199A form will need to be changed.

    They can release it for you for changes, you will resubmit electronically, and then have to get it to your financial institution to be signed and mailed back to D.C.

    Nothing you need to do right now.

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    Thankyou very much! This is a pretty good sign isn't it?

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    Sure is

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLY4420 View Post
    They can release it for you for changes, you will resubmit electronically, and then have to get it to your financial institution to be signed and mailed back to D.C.
    Make sure you keep a copy and send it certified. I had an incident a couple of years ago where they "never recieved" the update. I even gave them the name on the return reciept. I ended up scanning a copy and emailing the lady I spoke with to get it resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLY4420 View Post
    When you are contacted in regards to your potential award (either via e-mail or telephone) explain to the Specialist that your 1199A form will need to be changed.

    They can release it for you for changes, you will resubmit electronically, and then have to get it to your financial institution to be signed and mailed back to D.C.

    Nothing you need to do right now.
    I think you are suppose to fax it. The # is on the grant tutorial webpage.

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    Forgot that they started accepting by fax last year. Either one will work.

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    Sorry Sly but one more message- With I recieve the 10Q e-mail on my personal account or in my fema inbox? Thanks again

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    The questions will come to your personal e-mail.

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    So what are the odds now, this is our first 1199a, last year we got the DJ last round. How rare is it to get the 1199a and NOT get awarded? I had to call and tell everybody, and I keep telling them this sin't garunteed yet and they keep asking hwat our chances are now, so far I just tell'em better than they were yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by OsbornFPD View Post
    So what are the odds now, this is our first 1199a, last year we got the DJ last round. How rare is it to get the 1199a and NOT get awarded? I had to call and tell everybody, and I keep telling them this sin't garunteed yet and they keep asking hwat our chances are now, so far I just tell'em better than they were yesterday
    Well NW Missouri Osborn. If you have had an 1199a show up on your status portal. It is as we say around here, you may start planning the party, just don't send out the invitations yet.

    I would say your chances are,,,, 99% that you will be awarded. Just keep double checking yourself and if you feel you want to talk to AFG helpdesk, call them. They will help you through it. They don't want you to make any mistakes. Be patient, if the 10 questions get done you may have to wait a couple months or longer for your award to be official. Then you get to print of a nice official color copy of the award from FEMA to hang in your local Post Office window.

    (Quit laughing. That's what I did! LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam24u View Post
    Well NW Missouri Osborn. If you have had an 1199a show up on your status portal. It is as we say around here, you may start planning the party, just don't send out the invitations yet.

    I would say your chances are,,,, 99% that you will be awarded. Just keep double checking yourself and if you feel you want to talk to AFG helpdesk, call them. They will help you through it. They don't want you to make any mistakes. Be patient, if the 10 questions get done you may have to wait a couple months or longer for your award to be official. Then you get to print of a nice official color copy of the award from FEMA to hang in your local Post Office window.

    (Quit laughing. That's what I did! LOL)
    I ain't laughin, I have a buddy that works PT for a local newspaper, I'll get printred in there and hang that on my wall!

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    We got our 1199a this morning. Just wondering, now that we have got this what happens next. This was the second time i have filled out the grant, got a dj midway through the awards last year. We applied for 10 air packs and a R.I.T. pack this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartonff201 View Post
    We got our 1199a this morning. Just wondering, now that we have got this what happens next. This was the second time i have filled out the grant, got a dj midway through the awards last year. We applied for 10 air packs and a R.I.T. pack this year
    go to this thread. on top of page 6
    http://www.firehouse.com/forums/show...=110911&page=6 (Post when you find new 2009 AFG 1199As...)

    I just did a tutorial on how to proceed

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    thanks, one more question, We have our 3 quotes already we were told to adjust up 10% on our overall total for inflation. If we are rewarded the grant will we have a chance to adjust the price down to the total of the quote before the funds are issued? I do not want to end up with a bunch of extra money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartonff201 View Post
    thanks, one more question, We have our 3 quotes already we were told to adjust up 10% on our overall total for inflation. If we are rewarded the grant will we have a chance to adjust the price down to the total of the quote before the funds are issued? I do not want to end up with a bunch of extra money.
    Actually this is a good question. I think there are several options. Since I do not know what all is going to be awarded, I would first forget your previous quotes. Those were to get you an idea of how much to ask for in the application and the 10% extra is to cover increases in product pricings. Good strategy With 31 weeks gone by since the application period closed, good chance you may encounter some increases.

    Once you get your 10 questions accepted, then you can begin to think about what vendors you want to send bid requests to. Whatever they return make sure you keep copies of for your grant management binder. (Binder, get it?) I learned to ask for grant management funds to help cover the expenses now. Printer ink, paper, extra shipping, etc.
    I got to look at a grant guru's management binder system at one of Kurts seminars. Got rid of my accordian file I was so proud of.

    This is the time you make the vendors work to get your buisness. Those that were considerate enough to give you quotes for the application deserve to get a change to bid now is the reasonable procedure. That is for the future consideration of all of us.

    Collect your bids and you will know where you are then and what to do. And what is wrong with a little excess funds? Frankly I would like to have excess funds under $5,000 and get AFG's approval for expanding my project or covering any surprise expenses that sneak in. And they do sneak in. Remember AFG does not like to take back money. They want you to spend it within what your grant project is trying to accomplish.

    Remember the lowest price is not always the best route to go either. There can be other factors to consider that will be to your advantage. Just keep a log of why you chose what you chose and did what you did.

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    When I wrote our grant for a tanker, I put 2500 gallon in the narrative. I have found since then that we can get a 3000 gallon for same price. Will fema allow us to upgrade to the 3000 or are we bound by the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemechanic1 View Post
    When I wrote our grant for a tanker, I put 2500 gallon in the narrative. I have found since then that we can get a 3000 gallon for same price. Will fema allow us to upgrade to the 3000 or are we bound by the narrative.

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    Since you don't have an award YET, that means you haven't gone out to bid yet per the AFG guidelines! capice!!!
    When you do get the official award notice and then go out to bid you can then place a call to the grant specialist handling your file and inquire if this would be approved.
    The odds are that they will approve the increase in water capacity, BUT before you place the order get it approved in writing from the Grant specialist that will be you point of contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemechanic1 View Post
    When I wrote our grant for a tanker, I put 2500 gallon in the narrative. I have found since then that we can get a 3000 gallon for same price. Will fema allow us to upgrade to the 3000 or are we bound by the narrative.

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    This is why in narratives it is sometimes helpful to request a "minimum of a 2500 gallon tanker". That way you're not tied to a specific size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameryfd View Post
    This is why in narratives it is sometimes helpful to request a "minimum of a 2500 gallon tanker". That way you're not tied to a specific size.
    I was under the impression, you can get bigger and better, but you cant go lower or under the scope of practice that you listed in your narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfire1156 View Post
    I was under the impression, you can get bigger and better, but you cant go lower or under the scope of practice that you listed in your narrative.
    Generally, you can, but it's always better to ask, rather than having to beg forgiveness later. Don't forget that while some of the AFG folks understand the difference between the vaious pieces of equipment, there are some that don't know the difference between a spanner and an aerial. Any deviations from the approved award should be explained and get a blessing, or else you could wind-up eating the costs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfire1156 View Post
    I was under the impression, you can get bigger and better, but you cant go lower or under the scope of practice that you listed in your narrative.
    That's usually what they'll tell you, but as mentioned, it's always better to ask and make sure anytime you change anything. Every apparatus grant I've written has been relatively vague on a lot of aspects, such as "a minimum of 1250 gpm rated pump" or "a minimum 2,000 gallon tank". It gives you a bit more flexibility in case you end up with a situation like you're in.

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    so what if i was an idiot and put the wrong account number on the 1199as? can that be changed after i submitted them online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidizzle1129 View Post
    so what if i was an idiot and put the wrong account number on the 1199as? can that be changed after i submitted them online?
    When you receive the 10Q's tell them that you need to change the 1199 acct # and they will release the form back to you.

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