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    Default Top Mount Engine Compliance

    Have a question in reference to the side arm guards on a top mount engine. Must it have the guards (or whatever the proper name is) to be NFPA compliant? Any other items?


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    I think you are referring to Man Saver bars which are manufactured by Fire Research. To my knowledge they are not required by NFPA on top mount pumpers.

    http://www.fireresearch.com/product.php?id=msa110

    My personal opinion is they are more of nuisance than they are beneficial.

    I see them used more frequently on aerial turntables.

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    I do not believe they are required by NFPA. You could ask your apparatus builder and they could tell you for sure because that is their business and they keep up with those aspects of NFPA. The last engine we took delivery of did not have the man saver bars I researched it to make sure they were not required by NFPA.

    All of our other top mount engines have them primarily because most have pump and roll capabilities. We had the discussion about including them on this truck because it wasn't mandated. We did not include them because they are a hassle and get in the way.
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    My volunteer department has two newer top mount engines, a 2003 and a 2007. Niether have these bars. The only trucks I have ever seen with them were truck that were also half cab with open seats in the rear.
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    Thanks guys, I tried looking over NFPA and couldnt find anything in all that fine print. We have never had a top mount and are looking forward to it, hopefully. I could see how they were in the way, but can also see how they may keep a ff from falling off in pump and roll ops. They can also be used as a clothesline if the walkway were slick.

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    farmerfire1156,

    Is your truck already being built, out for bids or where are you at with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFWALT View Post
    farmerfire1156,

    Is your truck already being built, out for bids or where are you at with it?
    Its already built

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