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    Our department is putting on an in-house IAFF HazMat training program. I am looking for pictures and ideas for hands-on training props, and leak trees. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You

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    What level are you training to?
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    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckhanna1 View Post
    Our department is putting on an in-house IAFF HazMat training program. I am looking for pictures and ideas for hands-on training props, and leak trees. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You
    If you are looking for a hands on training aid to help with your hazardous materials just take a look at the BullEx GasTrainer. It has just won 2009 product of the year from Occupational Safety and Health. Give me a call or shoot me an e-mail and I can go over the specifics of the product, but if youre looking for hands on gas detection training this would be a good place to start. This system would allow you to set up a "leak" and actually uses a mimic multi gas meter with four gases to allow them to see when they are close/need to dawn SCBA/etc. If this is of interest just give me a call or shoot me an e-mail and I can discuss this further
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    Take a look at my Avatar....there is a prop for you! lol.....

    (BTW- the picture was taken during a Haz Mat Specialist class exercise)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRLFD448 View Post
    If you are looking for a hands on training aid to help with your hazardous materials just take a look at the BullEx GasTrainer. It has just won 2009 product of the year from Occupational Safety and Health. Give me a call or shoot me an e-mail and I can go over the specifics of the product, but if youre looking for hands on gas detection training this would be a good place to start. This system would allow you to set up a "leak" and actually uses a mimic multi gas meter with four gases to allow them to see when they are close/need to dawn SCBA/etc. If this is of interest just give me a call or shoot me an e-mail and I can discuss this further
    Thanks for the sales pitch. And speaking of gases, I hope you have plenty of O2 on hand for when you tell him the price!
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    The versitility of the system combined with the ability to actually see how your firefighters respond to very realistic scenarios make your point mute. The cost can also be recaptured in the systems ability to essentially save the sensor life of your multi gas meter for departments conducting training often. Turning the meter on and off constantly wears away at the life of the gas sensors and will in effect cost you in the long run. In addition most "hands on" training currently involves taking the meter and blowing cigarette smoke at it, sticking it near an exhaust pipe, etc. These methods also add to to deteriorating sensor life. The brilliance behind the system is that you can conduct this type of training and make it a very close to real scenario, get your guys the proper hands on training, and also save some dough in the long run.

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    We are training to the Technician level. We are very limited on funding, this would have to come out-of-pocket. My hopes were to find some examples of the ingenuity others have come up with as far as home - made hand-on training props.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRLFD448 View Post
    The versitility of the system combined with the ability to actually see how your firefighters respond to very realistic scenarios make your point mute. The cost can also be recaptured in the systems ability to essentially save the sensor life of your multi gas meter for departments conducting training often. Turning the meter on and off constantly wears away at the life of the gas sensors and will in effect cost you in the long run. In addition most "hands on" training currently involves taking the meter and blowing cigarette smoke at it, sticking it near an exhaust pipe, etc. These methods also add to to deteriorating sensor life. The brilliance behind the system is that you can conduct this type of training and make it a very close to real scenario, get your guys the proper hands on training, and also save some dough in the long run.
    I think you misunderstood my very valid point. I was not trying to discredit the system; my department is looking at purchasing one. Everything you have said about it is true- it is a great training tool. But not for someone putting on a one time in house training event...with limited funding. Just not practical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckhanna1 View Post
    We are training to the Technician level. We are very limited on funding, this would have to come out-of-pocket. My hopes were to find some examples of the ingenuity others have come up with as far as home - made hand-on training props.
    I am posting this here becuase it was too long to send in a private message.

    First, go to the local home supply store and get various peices of PVC pipe to include fittings, bends, valves, necks, collars, etc. Draw out the prop you want to make before you go, and buy enough pipe to build what you have drawn out. Have it stand about waist high. Have a fitting for whatever size water line you want to use to supply it on one end (we use a 1 1/2" attack line) and cap the other end. In between the two ends drill various holes and have fittings to open/close or tighten/loosen. When you supply it with water you will have leaks galore to fix.

    Another cheap prop idea is to just get an old 55-gallon drum and drill various sized holes in it at different points on the drum itself. Students can then decide to plug, patch, wedge, etc. the hole, or, it could simply be a matter of turning/tilting the drum. And there is always the option of overpacking.

    For chlorine, there are two very simple props we use that the students enjoy. First, get ahold of an old 150 lb. cylinder. Check your local welding supply company to see if they may have one to donate. Screw a chlorine tank fitting into the neck and drill and tap a hole in the bottom for a air line fitting. You now have a simulated leaking 150 lb. chlorine cylinder to apply an A-kit to. The second chlorine option is alittle more involved, but still a versatile prop. We just the head of a 1-ton chlorine cylinder mounted on wheels. Has all of the fittings on the face with garden hose fittings for water supply on the back. This allows for simulated leaks and the ability to apply a B-kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    I think you misunderstood my very valid point. I was not trying to discredit the system; my department is looking at purchasing one. Everything you have said about it is true- it is a great training tool. But not for someone putting on a one time in house training event...with limited funding. Just not practical.
    I see your point if they are planning on a one time training session then the system would not be cost effective. I took a program as something that will be done by their department for now and future classes. As far as general props go for a technician level, I have seen lots of agencies use a hazardous materials trailer. This trailer is essentially what GTrider had responded and told you to make with the PVC tubing and leaks.

    They have piping that has holes drilled into it, and allow water to run to simulate the leak. I also have found an article for you of the trailer with some pictures here:

    http://www.heraldbulletin.com/breaki...275173911.html

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