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    Default LODD Wisconsin

    "If I'm not back in five minutes.. wait longer."

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    RIP Brother.
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    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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    May God grant his family, friends and fellow firefighters comfort and strength in this sad time. RIP

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    thats a sad deal.piece a comfort to his family

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    Rest in peace brother.

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    Take it easy now pard. We've got it from here on in. RIP and God Bless Family and colleagues
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    I have no specific knowledge of this incident beyond what I read on the front page of this site. That said...

    Dumpster fires are not always what they seem. A drum outside the dumpster should give you great pause, as there may be drums inside the dumpster.

    Full PPE including SCBA. Best way to do it is to fill the friggin up with water. No entry into the dumpster. If you have to empty it, have the disposal company come out and assist.

    (They won't come? Oh. Cut the top off their dumpster justonce. They'll come out the next time).

    Please be careful out there.
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    George makes a good point. We have no idea what is in a dumpster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I have no specific knowledge of this incident beyond what I read on the front page of this site. That said...

    Dumpster fires are not always what they seem. A drum outside the dumpster should give you great pause, as there may be drums inside the dumpster.

    Full PPE including SCBA. Best way to do it is to fill the friggin up with water. No entry into the dumpster. If you have to empty it, have the disposal company come out and assist.

    (They won't come? Oh. Cut the top off their dumpster justonce. They'll come out the next time).

    Please be careful out there.
    Unofficial info received from a friend of mine who works for the sheriff's dept there said the dumpster was full of metal shavings that was on fire and reacted when water was applied. The metal shavings report did also come out during the last newscast at noon.

    I agree though, the drums outside should give a heads up to step back and do a good size up, maybe even hitting the fire with a deck gun or just let it burn out. This is a tragic reminder that no fire is routine.
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    http://www.bremermfg.com/
    That's a link to the business that was involved. They do use magnesium in some of their processes. Talking with outher guys on my dept, we think it might have been some magnesium reaction with water-but this only our opinion- we'll have to wait and see what the investigation turns up.
    "If I'm not back in five minutes.. wait longer."

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    Very sad. I hope the others make a speedy recovery.

    RIP brother.
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    Rest easy. Thoughts and prayers with everyone out there.

    We had a dumpster that was full of containers of MEK. The dumpster was in a garden apartment complex.

    As others have pointed out, you never know.
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    My condolences to the family and St. Anna FD on their loss.

    What is there to save in a dumpster?

    Nothing of value....

    I am a firm advocate of using the deck gun (if you have one prepiped) on a dumpster, or use the reach of the stream to hit it from a distance. 250 GPM through a smooth bore deuce and a half does the job quite nicely.

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    Our condolences to the Family and the Department as well. Early this morning, after getting the News from Billy G's Secret List, I contacted one of our Senior Management guys here and asked him to put it out on his email List, which he did. Hopefully, the point has been made, albiet with a terrible price paid, and folks will be more aware of their surroundings.

    Side Note - Some years back, I was out running a few errands, and heard a dispatch for a Dumpster Fire. Normal Reaction caused me to look in the direction of the call, about a mile away, and there was a Very large column of Black Smoke rolling up. I added myself to the call, and advised dispatch of what I saw. Since by the I was only 30 seconds out, they set up the Box Alarm and waited for my sizeup. Turns out that it was only a Dumpster, and not a really big one at that, BUT Someone had put a Couple Dozen old Tires in it. I had a Second Engine respond to assist with Water Supply, and it got the Deck Gun Treatment. You never Know.........
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    Not to take anything away, but a dept in the next county over had a LODD. This makes the second LODD in about 9 months.

    http://millerscreekfire.com/news.html?view=1&id=22025

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    My condolences to the family and St. Anna FD on their loss.

    What is there to save in a dumpster?

    Nothing of value....

    I am a firm advocate of using the deck gun (if you have one prepiped) on a dumpster, or use the reach of the stream to hit it from a distance. 250 GPM through a smooth bore deuce and a half does the job quite nicely.
    Gonzo, been using an aerial on dumpsters for years. Nothing to gain from putting someone in there. Floated one in Jan one year then had to fix the ice problem in the projects area, oh well.

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    Our deepest condolences to the family and friends.

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    My prayers for the department and the families of all the firefighters involved in this tragedy. I pray for speedy recovery for the injured. I am curious also as to what caused the explosion. Just goes to show that you never know what is going to happen in this job.

    Stay safe brothers and sisters.

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    I can only offer my condolences to the family, friends and the St. Anna FD at the loss of the fire fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinFFVFD View Post
    I am curious also as to what caused the explosion.
    The dumpster on fire was for scrap metal, the metal was on fire and when water was applied the reaction caused the explosion. The state investigators are looking at the release of hydrogen gas from the reaction with water as the cause. There were samples taken to determine if anything else was present, but for the most part it was the combination of a class "D" fire and water.
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    Very sad. Rest in peace.

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    Rest in Peace Brother. Speedy and full recovery to all of those injured.


    Please, let's take this opportunity to review with our fellow firefighters dumpster firefighting tactics.
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