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    Default Two Long-Term Dems to Retire

    Breaking news.

    Two long-term Democratic Senators, both of whom facing tough re-election races are not running for re-election.

    Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) are both out for their races this year. A tough blow to the Dems.

    Even more odd is that apparently Harry Reid (D-NV) and the Democratic leadership had no idea that this was going to occur.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714651 (article)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=34723096? (video)
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    It might have been under bad circumstances, but at least that takes two career politicians out of the picture.

    I wonder if the DNC will have Blue Dogs running in those races,
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    There is also a Congressman who recently converted to the Republican side as well. As for Reid, he is also in danger of losing his seat. Democrats will lose seats in the upcoming elections, it will be interesting to see how bad the damage is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    There is also a Congressman who recently converted to the Republican side as well. As for Reid, he is also in danger of losing his seat. Democrats will lose seats in the upcoming elections, it will be interesting to see how bad the damage is.
    For being so anti-both-party, you sure spend a lot of time only talking bad about Dems or getting satisfaction when Dem's get in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    For being so anti-both-party, you sure spend a lot of time only talking bad about Dems or getting satisfaction when Dem's get in trouble.
    No kidding. They both claim they're critical of the GOP, yet rarely (if ever) have they written anything that substantiates that claim.

    Sharkie at least tries to bring logic to an argument, idiotboy is well....our village idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    For being so anti-both-party, you sure spend a lot of time only talking bad about Dems or getting satisfaction when Dem's get in trouble.
    Here is the deal, the Democrats have had control for the last 3 years, and in the last year total control. The spotlight is on them and they have been screwing up royally. In previous years there was enough diversity and enough of a split that each party cold blame the other for the screw-ups and problems. The democrats with this total control will not be able to blame anyone but democrats. So when they pass poor legislation, increase the deficit even more, and screw the working man it is solely and completely their fault. By the same token, if they could possibly put in place some good legislation, cut the deficit, or benefit the working class they would like like heros. Bottom line is they have the opportunity to do something good and they are blowing it. They talked about health care reform and all they are giving us is a bigger government give away. There is no reform of heath care, just changes for the insurance industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Here is the deal, the Democrats have had control for the last 3 years, and in the last year total control. The spotlight is on them and they have been screwing up royally. In previous years there was enough diversity and enough of a split that each party cold blame the other for the screw-ups and problems. The democrats with this total control will not be able to blame anyone but democrats. So when they pass poor legislation, increase the deficit even more, and screw the working man it is solely and completely their fault. By the same token, if they could possibly put in place some good legislation, cut the deficit, or benefit the working class they would like like heros. Bottom line is they have the opportunity to do something good and they are blowing it. They talked about health care reform and all they are giving us is a bigger government give away. There is no reform of heath care, just changes for the insurance industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Isn't time for you to feed Arnold Ziffle?
    Isn't it time for yout to stop being a hypocrite and expect the same from your beloved Democrats that you wanted from your despised Republicans?
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    It's about time.Public office is NOT supposed to be a career.
    The idea was that people would run for office because someone HAS to represent the People to the Government and make laws on their behalf.Then they honorably retire,go back to their home district and live under the laws that they helped to pass.
    Instead,we get a bunch of lawyers that get into office and violate any conflict of interest rules(lawyers making laws) and stay in until they are carried out of the Rotunda on a backboard.
    If Congress wants to really be "of the people",they need to get the damned lawyers out and hire some more folks who actually own businesses or otherwise work for a living.
    People who haven't done more than graduate law school and needed numerous tries to pass the bar and then did nothing else with their lives but want to make healthcare regulations or control banks or tell people what kinds of firearms they can own are so far out of touch it isn't funny.

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    More than likely both seats will be filled by Dems.
    Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Isn't it time for yout to stop being a hypocrite and expect the same from your beloved Democrats that you wanted from your despised Republicans?
    Like what? If that in fact were the case as you believe, then conservatives should be singing the praises of Dems for acting in a similar manner.

    Those are the hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    More than likely both seats will be filled by Dems.

    If that's what the People want.
    Recently,Memphis was needing a new mayor and one tv station commissioned a poll and as a result,only had the top three poll winners on any debates.As a result,the other candidates,and some WERE waaaay out there were not given as much airtime as the three who ranked high in the polls.In fact,it could be said that the new Mayor,AC Wharton(fmr COUNTY Mayor who just switched offices) was given lots of unfair free advertising as I never saw any other candidate's ads but his on that station.
    We need to have the media just air the views and ideas of the candidates and stop giving on air bj's to the ones who meet with their approval and excite them the most.
    Let the People decide who they want driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    We need to have the media just air the views and ideas of the candidates and stop giving on air bj's to the ones who meet with their approval and excite them the most.
    Let the People decide who they want driving.
    So should there be government interference to ensure an objective perspective on issues? Should there be a return of the Fairness Doctrine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    So should there be government interference to ensure an objective perspective on issues? Should there be a return of the Fairness Doctrine?
    ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN - which two are going to get the Fox fair and balanced reprogramming. They then reflect the views of the average American and are balanced objective news organizations. And while transitioning then become profitable.

    Same for the bigtime newsrags in NY, Chicago, LA etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN - which two are going to get the Fox fair and balanced reprogramming. They then reflect the views of the average American and are balanced objective news organizations. And while transitioning then become profitable.

    Same for the bigtime newsrags in NY, Chicago, LA etc?
    Back at ya. Does that mean that Faux News will get the so called ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN reprogramming?

    As well as the conservative rag LA Daily News, Washington Times etc.
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    BTW, there are 10 House Dems retiring at the end of this term. In addition to the 14 House GOP's who've announced the same. The opportunity exists in those races for pickups to offset some of the potential Dem losses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    BTW, there are 10 House Dems retiring at the end of this term. In addition to the 14 House GOP's who've announced the same. The opportunity exists in those races for pickups to offset some of the potential Dem losses.
    Here ya go Why Democrats are jumping ship

    ...Polls show a detectable amount of angst among many Americans over the cost of health care reform, government bailouts and other massive expenditures. There is a sense in many parts of the country that President Obama and Congressional Democrats are trying to do too much too fast and running up too high a bill in the process...

    ...But even that doesn't tell the whole story. For that, you need to look at a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll from last month that found that Republicans had closed the popularity gap with Democrats. In that survey, 40 percent of those questioned say the United States would be better off if Democrats ran Congress while 39 percent feel things would be better if Republicans ran Congress. The one-point margin was a statistical tie....

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    The way I read your little poll is that only a minority thinks that either side will do a good job running the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    The way I read your little poll is that only a minority thinks that either side will do a good job running the country.
    That wasn't my poll. But you are 100% correct. These career politicians won't do what is right for the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    So should there be government interference to ensure an objective perspective on issues? Should there be a return of the Fairness Doctrine?
    As Rush Limbaugh says,"I AM equal time."
    When the media does NOT air both sides of an issue,it behooves those that WANT to hear other sides to provide a format to do so.Rush Limbaugh and other conservative pundits started their own talk shows without government help and in spite of some government interference based on the Fairness Doctrine.
    The people that want the Fairness Doctrine brought back expect that conservative stations will HAVE to air liberal views.But doesn't that cut both ways?If a conservative station has to air talk shows from the defunct Air America,shouldn't any follow on to Air America have to provide time for conservative talk shows?
    For political races,why should a tv station decide to only give ample air time to those candidates that a poll says would garner the most votes?Shouldn't the other candidates be allowed free air time during that debate period alongside the poll winning candidates to talk about what they would do if elected?
    Not every candidate in the recent Memphis election had enough money or the bully pulpit of being in office to help get their words to the electorate.

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