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    Default In another shocking development...

    Funny. I didn't see this one coming.

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    - January 06, 2010
    More Guantanamo Detainees Returning to the Battlefield, Sources Say

    The news comes as President Obama suspends the transfer of Yemeni detainees to their home country after a Yemen-based offshoot of Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for a plot on Detroit-bound flight


    The number of former Guantanamo Bay detainees returning to the battlefield has jumped significantly since last spring, sources with knowledge of the Pentagon's estimates tell Fox News.

    Three sources told Fox News that the percentage of released detainees who have either returned to the fight, or are suspected of having returned, has jumped to at least 20 percent in the Pentagon's latest count, from 14 percent in April.

    The development comes as President Obama suspends the transfer of Yemeni detainees to their home country in the wake of the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound flight on Christmas. A Yemen-based offshoot of Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the plot.

    But while the administration continues to face criticism over its plans to close the Guantanamo prison, the president insists he eventually will do so.

    Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell did not deny claims Wednesday that the recidivism percentage has jumped, but would not directly comment on the updated figured.

    "I don't believe the number has reversed itself," he said.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the administration will continue to make security a priority as it reviews the status of Guantanamo prisoners.

    "We're not going to make any decisions that we believe threaten the security of the country," Gibbs said.

    Recidivism among the former prisoners has gone steadily up. The April percentage was up from 11 percent in the previous count.

    Statistics on Guantanamo detainee recidivism are classified and are only periodically released to the public. Morrell said the Pentagon is working on processing the latest report so it can be released.

    A senior administration official told Fox News that the Pentagon was responsible for the timing of the release of the report. The official added that the Pentagon has no evidence that any of the 42 detainees released under the Obama administration have returned to the battlefield against America or its allies.

    "We have been presented with no information that suggests that any of the detainees transferred by this administration have returned to the fight," the senior official told Fox News.

    Ninety-one Yemenis remain at the facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Morrell said the decision not to transfer them home "does change the dynamic and it does change the calculation" for the closure of the facility.
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    It took Obama a year, but he is finally waking up and realizing Bush did the right thing. The real question is how many people will die because of these poor decisions.

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    Many of whom were freed by Cheney in 2007.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Many of whom were freed by Cheney in 2007.
    Under pressure from the liberals.

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    Did anyone really expect these guys would be reformed?

    DUH!
    HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    Did anyone really expect these guys would be reformed?

    DUH!
    I'm sure I will get the "bleeding Heart liberal" label for this, but here it goes:

    How many people that were released didn't go back? Either because they never had anything to do with it in the first place or they were reformed.

    Should we hold 49 people who are innocent, just so that #50 doesn't go back to Yemen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Should we hold 49 people who are innocent, just so that #50 doesn't go back to Yemen?
    If you think there's 49 innocent people in Gitmo, I have waterfront property in Arizona that may interest you.

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    Just playing Devil's Advocate here.
    How are they innocent?Which ones were holding a weapon of any sort(rifle,grenade launcher,mortar,etc) and which ones were wearing Red Crescent denoting medical personnel?
    Oh yeah,probably NONE because these guys weren't part of a nation's military and thus protected under the Geneva Convention.
    Civilians NOT taking part in a military action are protected as they aren't considered combatants.They don't want any part of it,just that their homes are not knocked down and they aren't killed.Logical.
    Civilians that ARE taking an active part in a military action(even our Second Amendment guaranteed militias),like loading ammunition into a grenade launcher,aiming a rifle,or spotting targets for a sniper team are viewed as spies or terrorists by the opposing side and actually can be executed on the spot.The only reason they weren't was that times have changed since Viet Nam,possibly because the photographed execution of a Viet Cong spy by Saigon's Police Chief caused people to think that shooting non-uniformed people taking a role in a fight is wrong.
    Barack Hussein Obama is President now,not George Walker Bush.If people being released from Guantanomo Bay Cuba by the OBAMA Administration are returning to the battlefield and reassuring their comrades they they have nothing to worry about being incarcerated in Gitmo,that sounds an awful like giving aid and comfort to our enemies to me.
    Even if not,it is under the Obama Administration and his people are supposed to deal with it more than blaming the previous Administration.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    I'm sure I will get the "bleeding Heart liberal" label for this, but here it goes:
    How many people that were released didn't go back? Either because they never had anything to do with it in the first place or they were reformed.

    Should we hold 49 people who are innocent, just so that #50 doesn't go back to Yemen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Even if not,it is under the Obama Administration and his people are supposed to deal with it more than blaming the previous Administration.
    Amen, I don't care what affiliation you are or who is President. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Even if not,it is under the Obama Administration and his people are supposed to deal with it more than blaming the previous Administration.
    No, this is par for the course. Even our retired friend SC uses this tactic.

    It's always how someone else acted before... a common deflection by him.
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