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    Default vehicle/dumpster fires. Mask up or not?

    Who masks up for all vehicle fire? Who packs up and waits to mask up on a situational basis? I personally mask up for all vehicle fires, and play it by the situation for dumpster's. What are your thoughts on this?
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    Both vehicles are dumpsters always gets SCBA.

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    Who knows the things that people are throwing away, probably would be best to mask the hoseman up.
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    Question: What can be found in a vehicle on fire?
    Answer: Just about everything!

    Question: What can be found in a dumpster on fire?
    Answer: Just about everything!

    Mask up.
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    there is absolutely no need to ever be close enough to a dumpster to wear a mask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    there is absolutely no need to ever be close enough to a dumpster to wear a mask.
    True... I prefer the deck gun method myself. It also works well on well involved vehicle fires. Hit hard and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    True... I prefer the deck gun method myself. It also works well on well involved vehicle fires. Hit hard and fast.
    We use that method also and it works great. We still tend to get closer and mop up, expecially if the dumpster is close to a structure.
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    Lately we have been filling the dumpsters with either the deck gun or a 2 1/2", no mop up needed.
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    We mask up on Vehicle fires and if your going to be in the smoke mask up on Dumpsters also. So more often than not we the nozzleman is masked up on a dumpster fire. Might have to use the Deck gun technique on our next one and will drill with it with my recruits on it.

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    If it is on fire, and it isnt a brush fire, we pack up. Air is free folks.

    And I agree with the whole standing back from dumpster fires thing. Nothing to be gained from getting close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Lately we have been filling the dumpsters with either the deck gun or a 2 1/2", no mop up needed.
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    We mask up on everything other than grass/brush.

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    Mask for both.
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    Yes sir, mask up. Knowing some of the stuff that is in dumpsters if you are in the smoke just put it on. Even for grass/brush fires we have paperish filters that go into a SCBA facepiece to provide some protection.

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    Mask up for both. Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKDRAFT View Post
    Mask up for both. Why not?
    Becuase last shift we had a 50% involved semi truck cab going on the expressway 2 of the guys on the engine company im housed with got in a big argument about what/when they will wear their mask. Just wanted to hear your guys opinions.
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    We mask up when needed. Which means yes usually we will mask up for car fires and dumpster fires. However we do not get right up next to the thing. It amazes me when i see guys trying to make an interior attack on a honda civic, why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKDRAFT View Post
    Mask up for both. Why not?
    why bother getting close enough to a dumpster to even need a mask?
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    Default To mask or not

    When you get down to it....eventually your going to have to put your face near the dumpster and breathe the toxic fumes...so why not mask up. You could be a Macho Man and tough it out or you can mask up and live to enjoy your retirement
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    both get a mask. No questions asked. SCBA air is free and good.

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