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    Hey guys, I am 2 days into my academy so far for Norfolk, VA Fire - Rescue. Anyways, I am a pretty large individual, I am about 6'1 270 lbs. I have heard both my instructors talk about me saying " he is going to be a ladder guy". I am assuming that they are saying that I will possibly be assigned to a ladder? Does anyone know why this is? All feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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    Traditionally big, tall, gorilla types were assigned to truck companies. This was because of forcible entry, overhaul, ventilation, search, where there size was an advantage. Smaller statured guys were assigned to engine companies.

    Today this doesn't seem to apply as much as it did times past.
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    How large? Like "Hey big guy" or "that SCBA looks like a Tic-Tac on a mouse's back" big...

    Just kidding man, good luck.

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    Ok, I see. That makes sense. Thank you for the insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    How large? Like "Hey big guy" or "that SCBA looks like a Tic-Tac on a mouse's back" big...

    Just kidding man, good luck.
    lol. More or so the "big guy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Traditionally big, tall, gorilla types were assigned to truck companies. This was because of forcible entry, overhaul, ventilation, search, where there size was an advantage. Smaller statured guys were assigned to engine companies.

    Today this doesn't seem to apply as much as it did times past.
    Yeah, too many of us "big" guys wanted to get off the trucks and become real firefighters on the engines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Traditionally big, tall, gorilla types were assigned to truck companies. This was because of forcible entry, overhaul, ventilation, search, where there size was an advantage. Smaller statured guys were assigned to engine companies.

    Today this doesn't seem to apply as much as it did times past.
    Yeah, big guys ARE useful for all those things...
    Get 4 smaller guys at each corner, smash the big guy lid-first into the door, battering ram!
    Put the aerial about 20ft above the roof, let big guy swan-dive off, one-step ventilation.
    Even useful on wildland fires. Have big guy dive off a ridge and slide down the hill lid-first, insta-dozer line. >:-D

    I joke, cause I used to be a "big guy"... not big-big, but not all that much smaller than the OP. Now I'm one of those almost-lanky guys, where I belong.

    If ya wanna be big like Ah-nuld in the Roid Rage days, have at it... but, and I'm sure this'll hurt a lot of butts (particularly of the wider variety), I'm not sure the other interpretation of "big" has much place out on the fireground... :-/
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    You DO realize you're kind of a walking enigma don't you Harve?,hehe T.C.

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    big dumb apes on trucks

    medium to smaller smarter guys on engines

    hero complex guys on the rescue


    I may have some personal bias

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    SOME?...............Yah think? hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Life is so Easy here.......

    BIGGEST Guys on the Truck........

    SMALLER Guys on the Engine......

    SMARTEST Guys on the Rescue Companies...........

    Been a Rescue Guy almost from Day One.........
    Wait, who's riding in the Fire SUV??

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    Wow I've been an Engine guy for a while but just got transferred to the Truck. Iam confused. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac73 View Post
    Wow I've been an Engine guy for a while but just got transferred to the Truck. Iam confused. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac73 View Post
    Wow I've been an Engine guy for a while but just got transferred to the Truck. Iam confused. lol
    You're confused? Try walking in my shoes...I ride on a quint!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    You're confused? Try walking in my shoes...I ride on a quint!!
    So you ride right next to the pink tu-tu wearin Quint Faerie hermself, 26?
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    I'm sure you don't mean this Quint...
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    Quote Originally Posted by the1141man View Post
    So you ride right next to the pink tu-tu wearin Quint Faerie hermself, 26?
    Nope but I do consider myself to be a super hero in the fireservice since I am both an engine man and a truckie all rolled into one!!
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    Here's a little poem a friend of mine taught me about 20 years ago:

    He strides from the engine with a hose in his hand,

    He walks with authority he's an engine man,

    He relies on skill and not on luck,

    Like those wedge headed dildos that ride on a truck!!



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    My head has never been described as "wedge-shaped"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Nope but I do consider myself to be a super hero in the fireservice since I am both an engine man and a truckie all rolled into one!!
    Well see you've got the short fairly nimble (nimbles not the right word. Um, agile? Naybe its just the short stature...) stature of an engine guy, and the stocky ladder throwing stature of a truckie, so you get the best of both worlds lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Nope but I do consider myself to be a super hero in the fireservice since I am both an engine man and a truckie all rolled into one!!
    Yeah, but you still can't rappel out of a helo to a fire, all Black Hawk Down-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by safdkiltie View Post
    My head has never been described as "wedge-shaped"...


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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Life is so Easy here.......

    BIGGEST Guys on the Truck........

    SMALLER Guys on the Engine......

    SMARTEST Guys on the Rescue Companies...........

    Been a Rescue Guy almost from Day One.........
    I will second that motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    big dumb apes on trucks

    medium to smaller smarter guys on engines

    hero complex guys on the rescue


    I may have some personal bias
    Will not disagree with that one either.
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