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    My thoughts and prayers go out to all the people in Haiti...

    Reports are that the death toll may top 100,000. Hospitals and other critical infrastructure has been destroyed.

    As for USAR:
    I know CA-TF2 and VA-TF1 are going. I also heard that a Task Force from FL was going. (FL-TF1...?) Also the USNS Comfort is heading towards the area.

    Does anyone know if any other USAR teams are going?

    More to come...

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    I just hope the mass exodus is to France and not here.
    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.

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    Wow, that was inappropriate.

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    I guess you don't have to deal with them every day of your life like we do down here.
    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemedic 61 View Post
    I just hope the mass exodus is to France and not here.
    That was sort of inappropriate, but accurate. We live in a country that is unable to take care of its own, we cannot take in any more.

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    Just saying that the response had nothing to do with the initial post, that stuff should go to the politics part. You aren't dealing with 'them', 'they' are in Haiti, and 'they' are in a world of hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headoutdaplane View Post
    Wow, that was inappropriate.
    No, it's the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemedic 61 View Post
    I guess you don't have to deal with them every day of your life like we do down here.
    Hmmm....where is that quote I saw somewhere around here? Oh yeah, on your signature line.

    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.

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    Trying to get through to someone in logistics.....on where the United States U.S.A.R.Teams will be staged....at the US Embassy in Port-Au-Prince?....Or? Probably pretty high level for the on-lookers here....but one never knows. Trying to hookup with US Teams there....Timing is critical.....We want to leave by Friday AM....

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    Quote Originally Posted by headoutdaplane View Post
    Hmmm....where is that quote I saw somewhere around here? Oh yeah, on your signature line.

    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.
    Oh no don't get me wrong I'm not talking about dealing with them at work, they're job security after all. I am talking about dealing with them every other day. Again you must not live here so you probably have no clue the problems we as South Floridians deal with when it comes to them. If I could move I would.
    If your going to cry about doing the job you signed up for do us all a favor and quit, there are plenty of dedicated people standing in line for the best job in the world.

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    Take them all over to Cuba and let them deal with them or better yet GITMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetruckguy33 View Post
    Trying to get through to someone in logistics.....on where the United States U.S.A.R.Teams will be staged....at the US Embassy in Port-Au-Prince?....Or? Probably pretty high level for the on-lookers here....but one never knows. Trying to hookup with US Teams there....Timing is critical.....We want to leave by Friday AM....
    If you are NOT on any of the teams you arn't going as they don't need freeloaders or freelancers!!!

    VA TEAM 1 and others are gone.

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    Gitmo, France..? We are talking about folks that aren't leaving the country of Haiti, they aren't in Fla. and they are in the big suck right now, even more than normal. "I would leave Fla if I could" Get on your bicycle and move to Idaho...what, you will miss out on your retirement?...boo hoo. You can leave, they can't. "they are job security"...Pathetic. It is not your emergency, I understand. The original post was prayers and thoughts for survivors and responders, and you guys turn it into some political rant. My thoughts and prayers are for the survivors and responders. This is my last post on this thread so whine (and you do)/flame away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    If you are NOT on any of the teams you arn't going as they don't need freeloaders or freelancers!!!

    VA TEAM 1 and others are gone.
    As Jonnee said if your not on one of the teams that were deployed then your not going to be able to get there. All they need down there is a load of yahoo's freelancing and getting themselfs into trouble, those teams that did go are hosted thru "USAID" and the U.S. State Department. It's going to be bad enough with the sub-standard buildings that are left standing to have to watch out for would-be rescuers getting hurt.
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    Canadian Military Disaster Assistance Relief Team dispatched today. Lead contingent is leaving Trento Ont. today. They will be followed up by the balanceof the team as soon as needsare determined by advanceteam. They will fly out on C-130 today. God Bless and keep all safe.

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    Death, poverty, starvation ,squalor , sickness, lack of drinking water & desperation is what Haiti had before the earthquake.
    Maybe this wave of money and aid from other countries will improve the standard of living. We could even ship them all those nice fema trailers from down south, that would be a big improvement to their former living quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJTF1Bowman View Post
    As Jonnee said if your not on one of the teams that were deployed then your not going to be able to get there. All they need down there is a load of yahoo's freelancing and getting themselfs into trouble, those teams that did go are hosted thru "USAID" and the U.S. State Department. It's going to be bad enough with the sub-standard buildings that are left standing to have to watch out for would-be rescuers getting hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firetruckguy33 View Post
    Trying to get through to someone in logistics.....on where the United States U.S.A.R.Teams will be staged....at the US Embassy in Port-Au-Prince?....Or? Probably pretty high level for the on-lookers here....but one never knows. Trying to hookup with US Teams there....Timing is critical.....We want to leave by Friday AM....


    Stay where you are. If they need you and your services, they will call you and not you calling them.
    This will not happen any time soon!

    Unless you have been trained and are a member of one of the federal sponsored rescue teams forget it. Those who are having already been so notified and have left the USA, are on scene.

    The last thing they need is some dude freelancing. You go down there and get in trouble and you might not be returning back to the States!
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

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    The best thing is it happened on an island, the FAA has stopped all flight into Haiti from the US aside from Military transports. kind of hard to swim there..
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    I was dispatched to Bam, Iran when the earthquake hit there in 03. I believe about 20,000 people lost their lives there. I would think that one of the biggest problems these people will face is logistics. Lack of roads, damaged airport, lack of any support on the ground. Getting aid in will not be that big of a problem, but lack of heavy equipment, lack of medical space, trying to navigate roads that no longer exist are really going to tax everyones ability. God Bless and watch over all.

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    The talking heads on TV haven't been painting a very good picture of the relief efforts, One reporter was with a group of rescuers trying to enlarge a hole in a concrete slab and he said these were the only rescuers he has seen working and they were from a near by island nation. If you look at Port-a-Prince on google earth it looks like you have a 15 mile by 15 mile area of tightly packed housing.. I hate to say but it's going to come down to clearing the area block by block house by house by hand and it will take a long time.
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    Its a bit disheartening to watch world news on the Haiti earthquake. Talking heads seem to be concentrating on criticizing the operation for not getting the aid out to the people quicker. They cannot seem to get it through their heads that its not as simple as landing at a third world airport, unloading the Hercs and drive off to the city. From my experience, there are few trucks to load supplies on, theres little fuel for the ones still drivable, the roads are under tons of rubble or collapsed, very little heavy equipment to clear paths.
    I commend the crews from all over for the efforts they are making and the problems they are facing and solving.
    God Bless and keep you safe
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    I've read that Fairfax County USAR has rescued some people from collapsed buildings and they are the only USAR teams I've seen on the news reports. What happened to the rest of the teams FEMA sent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Take them all over to Cuba and let them deal with them or better yet GITMO!
    I heard that this is one option they are considering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Its a bit disheartening to watch world news on the Haiti earthquake. Talking heads seem to be concentrating on criticizing the operation for not getting the aid out to the people quicker. They cannot seem to get it through their heads that its not as simple as landing at a third world airport, unloading the Hercs and drive off to the city. From my experience, there are few trucks to load supplies on, theres little fuel for the ones still drivable, the roads are under tons of rubble or collapsed, very little heavy equipment to clear paths.
    I commend the crews from all over for the efforts they are making and the problems they are facing and solving.
    God Bless and keep you safe
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    I agree. I think they will start using helicopters from the aircraft carrier to deliver supplies soon.

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