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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    And it is. In case you forgot, conservatives blamed (and continue to blame things) on Bill Clinton. It worked for them for years despite it being inaccurate.
    I never said that was right either. Every administration did things wrong.

    And for conservatives/Republicans to blame only Mr. Clinton is disingenuous since 6 years of his administration were under Republican "control" of congress.

    Just as for all you Democrats/liberals/progressives to blame only Bush is equally disingenuous given the Democrats' action the last 2 years of his Presidency.

    Eventually you have to take blame for being part of the problem - especially if you are offering no solutions, and not following through with your own promises.
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    So if Coakley wins tomorrow, will that be a mandate? Especially if she wins by more than 2.5%. That was the margin of victory for Bush during the 2004 election and conservatives across the country were claiming that as a mandate of the people.

    I'm kind of enjoying watching the effort you put into these posts. It's clearly obvious this means much more to you.

    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    They are. I may not be happy that the Republicans will benefit from it - however the Democrats are in trouble for doing NOTHING to correct our situation beyond adding more to our nation's debt and deficit, pushing laws that people find grossly unpopular, and proving themselves to be just as hypocritical as the Republicans are.
    The Dems are in trouble with their base because they haven't been more liberal. The base wants things like an exit out of Iraq yesterday, legalized gay marriage, and health care reform that includes a public option.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    You obviously don't pay attention to what I write. I blame both sides of the aisle, unlike you who only takes time to blame conservatives and Republicans for every ill that ever befalls us.
    You only blame one side. Once again, please post links to the threads you started that are critical of conservatives.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    And you want us to believe your non-partisan?

    I have never claimed to be non-partisan. I may not be a member or any political party, but that does not make me non-partisan.
    Glad you admit that. Your bias is obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Since today is a historical day where you actually substantiated ONE of your arguments, perhaps you can find a post where I claimed to be so and provide a link to it.
    Your posts speak for themselves.

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    Keep laughing.
    Will do. Your posts are great for that purpose.
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    It means more to DaSharkie and I because we live here... I have been inundated with phone calls in the last week from both the Brown and Coakley camps. Coakley's callers were negative towards Brown. The Brown callers merely asked for my vote.

    I am neither a Democrat or Republican, nor a liberal (although I have been accused of being by sone of the extreme right posters here) or a conservative (although I have been accused of being by some of the extreme left posters here).

    Coakley fired the first salvo in the negative ad war that she approved of.

    Brown answered with an ad saying that the only way that Martha could bring him down was to go negative. That made an impact on a lot of people.

    Martha making statements like "Curt Shilling is a Yankee Fan", "there are no Taliban in Afghanistan" and "what do they expect me to do.. campaign at Fenway Park".. make her look clueless.

    She thought she could waltz into the Senate with a large margin of victory.. the RNC on the state and national level just about conceded the seat.

    Surprise! Brown busted his hump and worked hard for where he is today.

    Tomorrow will be very interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    So if Coakley wins tomorrow, will that be a mandate? Especially if she wins by more than 2.5%. That was the margin of victory for Bush during the 2004 election and conservatives across the country were claiming that as a mandate of the people.

    I'm kind of enjoying watching the effort you put into these posts. It's clearly obvious this means much more to you.

    Carry on.
    I honestly do not recall ANYONE saying 2004 was a mandate. 2004, if anything, was a repudiation of Kerry.
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    Chief, how would you have liked to have been a fly on Schilling's wall when heard that? He has made it well known that he does not care for the Yankee organization. Her saying that must've been like slapping him in the face.

    Wasn't there talk awhile back about Schilling running for Congress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    So if Coakley wins tomorrow, will that be a mandate?
    Nope. It will be the result of an election. No mandate. It will scare the shyte of the Democrats though. Otherwise Bill Clinton and Barack Obama would not have graced us with their presence.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Especially if she wins by more than 2.5%. That was the margin of victory for Bush during the 2004 election and conservatives across the country were claiming that as a mandate of the people.
    No. SOME conservatives were, as were the blathering talking heads who said it was. Although, if 2.5% more people vote for a candidate, then I suppose someone could twist it around and say that the majority of the people that voted wanted it, so it could be a considered a mandate.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I'm kind of enjoying watching the effort you put into these posts. It's clearly obvious this means much more to you.
    It does mean much more to me. The priviledge to vote is a wonderful thing. If you don't vote, then don't bitch about the political direction that our nation has taken.

    I put effort into my posts, because unlike you a simple little quip is not enough to challenge the statements that I make, and I prefer - unlike you - to try to substantiate the things I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    The Dems are in trouble with their base because they haven't been more liberal. The base wants things like an exit out of Iraq yesterday, legalized gay marriage, and health care reform that includes a public option.
    It is not the base that they need to be worried about. The majority of the electorate are unenrolled and will swing whichever way they feel a candidate will go.

    The base can be ticked off, but remember that the majority of the public in polls - which is all we can base this off of - do not support gay marriage (this is why it failed EVERY TIME that it has been put before the electorate. The only states that have it, have it because the courts ruled it, or the legislature passed it. I could not care less who you want to marry - I may think it is wrong, but it does not affect me, so marry whoever you want, but if the electorate votes in a majority then you ought to freaking deal with it or bring it up for another vote.

    As for health care "reform" what makes this statement ridiculous is that almost every RECENT poll (not one done 6 months ago like you post) shows a DROPPING support for either of the current versions of "reform" that are before Congress.

    The base does not matter, it is the totality of the electorate and their desires which are being ignored by the party in "control" of Congress.

    Scott Brown is not against health care "reform" he is against the current versions before Congress.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    You only blame one side.
    Hello pot? This is the kettle. You're Black.

    I blame both sides. I have done so numerous times in numerous posts - even the ones in this thread - you conveniently choose to ignore that.

    You only blame conservatives and Republicans for the ills of our society and government. Funny how I am the only one you say that blames one side. Your ideology blinds you, making you a hypocrate.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Once again, please post links to the threads you started that are critical of conservatives.
    Once again, starting threads is not a method of measurement. I have stated multiple times my distaste for both parties in general - however that does not mean that both parties do not have decent candidates. Hell, if Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-South Boston) decided to run I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Glad you admit that. Your bias is obvious.
    I never denied it you fool. You bias is as obvious as mine, however I will admit it and you refuse to.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Your posts speak for themselves.
    Once again you prove your hypocracy and cowardice. You accuse me of something, I deny it and call you on it. You choose to be a coward and lack the intestinal fortitude to substantiate the claims that I never made.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Will do. Your posts are great for that purpose.
    Very respectful. Your opinion is the only one that matters to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    It means more to DaSharkie and I because we live here... I have been inundated with phone calls in the last week from both the Brown and Coakley camps. Coakley's callers were negative towards Brown. The Brown callers merely asked for my vote.

    I am neither a Democrat or Republican, nor a liberal (although I have been accused of being by sone of the extreme right posters here) or a conservative (although I have been accused of being by some of the extreme left posters here).

    Coakley fired the first salvo in the negative ad war that she approved of.

    Brown answered with an ad saying that the only way that Martha could bring him down was to go negative. That made an impact on a lot of people.

    Martha making statements like "Curt Shilling is a Yankee Fan", "there are no Taliban in Afghanistan" and "what do they expect me to do.. campaign at Fenway Park".. make her look clueless.

    She thought she could waltz into the Senate with a large margin of victory.. the RNC on the state and national level just about conceded the seat.

    Surprise! Brown busted his hump and worked hard for where he is today.

    Tomorrow will be very interesting....

    The left and right wing PACS have been buying ad time left and right... the radio, television stations and newspapers are making a small fortune selling ads and air time.
    A most excellent post Deputy. We care because we live here. Our desires as residents in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are the only ones that matter. We, as individual voters, are responsible - good or bad - for what occurs tomorrow. We are the only ones that matter in this election.

    We cannot watch a freaking show on TV without hearing a ridiculous amount of negative ads. In the last week the DSCC and a host of other groups have come out blasting Scott Brown, casting him in a negative light.

    Martha Coakley fired the first salvo, and her accusations were proven wrong. Her statement that Catholics should not work in an Emergency Department have royally p!$$ed off a lot of people in this state - a largely Catholic state.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/pol...icleid=1225965

    She accused Curt Schilling of being a Yankee fan, which is a dangerous statement - it may seem trivial, but a lot of people have shaken her head.

    Her statement that Al Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan show her gross lack of understanding given the deaths of several CIA employees - including one from a town near me and Gonzo - and the deaths of 3 soldiers in Afghanistan the VERY DAY she made the statement are not endearing a lot of folks. It shows, as I said, a lack of understanding of the matter.

    I have yet to receive one of these "robo-calls" that the good Deputy speaks of, however I know many that have. And Gonzo's statements about the critical and demeaning posture of Martha Coakley's are true from what I hear from friends, family, and co-workers.

    I hope that Scott Brown does keep an independent view, as he has said. Especially given the way the state Republican party and the RNC treated him for most of this election. Tell them to bugger off since they only come riding to the scene after he has done all the heavy lifting on his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Chief, how would you have liked to have been a fly on Schilling's wall when heard that? He has made it well known that he does not care for the Yankee organization. Her saying that must've been like slapping him in the face.
    I agree. And I hate professional sports. But on top of a slap to him, it was a slap in the face to every die hard Red Sox fan here in Massachusetts - and you can't swing a dead cat here in Massachusetts without hitting a Red Sox fan.

    Even if it was a joke - it fell quite flat.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Wasn't there talk awhile back about Schilling running for Congress?
    There was. He briefly contemplated running the current U. S. Senate vacancy, as a Republican, but opted not to. However he has never concealed his desire to serve as an elected official on the state or national level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I honestly do not recall ANYONE saying 2004 was a mandate. 2004, if anything, was a repudiation of Kerry.
    George, there were a few political talking heads that I remember hearing saying it was a mandate - but I cannot recall who they were.
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    Took me a couple seconds to find it, but here is Martha Coakley insulting Curt Schilling. Calling a Red Sox player or fan a Yankee fan in these parts will undoubtedly cause the person a slight sense of fear for their life initially.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmNpcMHwOa8
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I honestly do not recall ANYONE saying 2004 was a mandate. 2004, if anything, was a repudiation of Kerry.

    Many conservatives in the media ignored or downplayed Bush's extraordinarily narrow margin of victory and the unprecedented number of voters who expressed opposition to Bush's agenda by voting for Kerry:

    The Wall Street Journal: "The voters did [decide the election] -- including millions of conservative first-timers whom the exit polls and media missed -- emerging from the pews and exurban driveways to give President Bush what by any measure is a decisive mandate for a second term. ... Just because an election is close doesn't mean it isn't decisive. ... We do already know ... that Mr. Bush has been given the kind of mandate that few politicians are ever fortunate enough to receive." [Wall Street Journal editorial, "The Bush mandate," 11/4/04]

    William J. Bennett, conservative author and nationally syndicated radio host: "Having restored decency to the White House, President Bush now has a mandate to affect policy that will promote a more decent society, through both politics and law. His supporters want that, and have given him a mandate in their popular and electoral votes to see to it." [National Review Online, "The Great Relearning," 11/3/04]

    CNN host Tucker Carlson, co-host of CNN's Crossfire: "[N]obody has done it since 1988. The president wins reelection with a majority of the vote. It is a mandate. What will he do with it now? [CNN, Crossfire, 11/3/04]

    The New York Sun: "[I]t was hard, at 3:35 a.m., when these words were written, to see much point to the quest that Senator Kerry has undertaken in Ohio other than to indulge a certain kind of bitterness, to poison American politics for the coming term, and to seek to dilute the extraordinary mandate Mr. Bush, if not yet in the Electoral College, has received among Americans from coast to coast." [The New York Sun editorial, "The Popular Vote," 11/3/04]

    Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal contributing editor: "He [Bush] has, I would argue, a mandate now. You can bet he's going forward boldly. He announced it today in his victory speech. He said, 'Honey, I'm not just going to lower your taxes. I am transforming the tax system.'" [FOX News Channel, Hannity & Colmes, 11/3/04]

    Pat Buchanan, MSNBC political analyst: "There's no doubt about it, this was a vote against, by the red-state folks who gave the victory to George Bush, it was a rejection of blue-state America. It was a rejection of their values, their attacks on the president. ... And the idea, it seems to me, that somehow the folks who won should now surrender part of whatever mandate they have to the folks who lost -- I can tell you, what we're hearing on this panel, people out there in red-state America are finding it very offensive." [MSNBC, Hardball with Chris Matthews, 11/3/04]

    William Kristol, Weekly Standard executive editor: "The hair-pullers and teeth-gnashers won't like it, of course, but we're nevertheless inclined to call this a mandate. Indeed, in one sense, we think it an even larger and clearer mandate than those won in the landslide reelection campaigns of Nixon in 1972, Reagan in 1984, and Clinton in 1996." [The Weekly Standard, "Misunderestimated," 11/15/04 issue]

    Mainstream media outlets followed conservatives' lead in trumpeting Bush's narrow victory as a mandate:

    Tony Karon, TIME magazine columnist and senior editor: "George W. Bush took the reins of power with the confidence and certainty of one who had carried a landslide mandate to implement his own agenda. This time, of course, his claim of a popular mandate is incontrovertible. His party has strengthened its grip on both branches of the legislature, and freed of any first-term restraints that might be thrown up by reelection concerns, President George W. Bush is well positioned to even more vigorously pursue his agenda." [TIME, "Victorious Bush Reaches Out," 11/3/04]

    Dan Chapman, Atlanta Journal-Constitution global economics and business reporter: "Bush, buoyed by a popular mandate and a more Republican Congress, will probably receive the financial and military wherewithal to fight the insurgency and rebuild Iraq." [Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "Bush gets voters' nod on Iraq, but outlook risky," 11/4/04]

    Keith Miller, NBC News correspondent: "Bush, who won by more than three and a half million votes, has a solid mandate that will force the attention of America's enemies and allies." [NBC Nightly News, 11/3/04]

    Rafael Lorente, Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) Washington bureau: "Americans not only gave President Bush a mandate, they also gave him the necessary tools in the form of more Republican House and Senate colleagues to push through his conservative agenda." [Sun-Sentinel, "Bush now has the tools to energize his priority programs," 11/4/04, syndicated by Knight Ridder/Tribune Information Services]

    Doyle McManus and Janet Hook, Los Angeles Times staff writers: "Four years ago, George W. Bush won his first term with fewer votes than his opponent, but governed as if the nation had granted him a clear mandate to pursue conservative policies. This time, Bush can claim a solid mandate of 51% of the vote, which made him the first presidential candidate to win a clear majority since 1988 -- a point Bush aides made repeatedly Wednesday." [Los Angeles Times, "Majority Win Could Make Second Term More Partisan," 11/4/04]
    Just to give the accolades some perspective. Bush's 2004 victory was the narrowest margin of victory for an incumbent since Woodrow Wilson in 1916. And certainly the narrowest for a wartime president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Many conservatives in the media ignored or downplayed Bush's extraordinarily narrow margin of victory and the unprecedented number of voters who expressed opposition to Bush's agenda by voting for Kerry:



    Just to give the accolades some perspective. Bush's 2004 victory was the narrowest margin of victory for an incumbent since Woodrow Wilson in 1916. And certainly the narrowest for a wartime president.
    Actually, (and I feel a little dumb right now) what I meant was anyone on these forums. I knew there were press people that said it. I guess I should have been more explicit.
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    Her statement that Al Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan show her gross lack of understanding given the deaths of several CIA employees - including one from a town near me and Gonzo - and the deaths of 3 soldiers in Afghanistan the VERY DAY she made the statement are not endearing a lot of folks. It shows, as I said, a lack of understanding of the matter.
    I can't remember her name, but isn't there a conservative female who once ran for VP that is continually vilified in the press for not having an in-depth knowledge of these types of matters. What was her name again? You know, the one who is now on the opposite side of yet another liberal double standard.
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    Let me say a word about the "liberal base". The "liberal base" that is constantly referred to is only the "financial base" of the party. This small percentage is thought to be much larger because it has two things that moderate democrats do not have; gobs of cash and access to the media.

    This "base" has the Dem congress eating out of their hands. They are going to help drive the Dem bus right off the cliff in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I can't remember her name, but isn't there a conservative female who once ran for VP that is continually vilified in the press for not having an in-depth knowledge of these types of matters. What was her name again? You know, the one who is now on the opposite side of yet another liberal double standard.
    OH yeah. I know who you are talking about. Man....what was her name. I can see her, but I can't place it....

    Oh yeah, it was Sarah Palin - just in case scfire86 forgot. We'd hate for him to get caught up in his hypocracy and ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Let me say a word about the "liberal base". The "liberal base" that is constantly referred to is only the "financial base" of the party. This small percentage is thought to be much larger because it has two things that moderate democrats do not have; gobs of cash and access to the media.

    This "base" has the Dem congress eating out of their hands. They are going to help drive the Dem bus right off the cliff in November.
    Sad thing is that the Republicans have a base that they love to court.

    I agree, there are so many special interest groups scattered throughout the Democratic "base" and they cannot keep everyone happy.

    The independents voted in Barack Obama in this nation, and he has not held up his end of the deal. The things that he did do in the last year have been less than fruitful and, while many (including myself) may find President Obama to be a nice guy and very personable - his lack of action and inability to keep his campaign promises is hurting him, and the Democrats in general.

    You can't please everyone all the time. Something has to give.

    Of an interesting note, the past week or so I have read several newspaper and internet articles calling Scott Brown an inexperienced Senator and "little-known" but these were the same descriptors used to describe Mr. Obama......and we were told by many in the left side of the political persuasion that this was a good thing. Funny how it only works for Democrats.
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    The Dems are starting to question the Health Care bill. When Brown wins the whole thing is doomed. Brown has run his campaign on the notion he will oppose the bill and stop it. When a liberal state like MA makes this statement it has to make others take notice.

    also of note is Prostitute Nelson has lost is popularity since jumping on the bandwagon.

    Health reform teeters as GOP seeks Massachusetts miracle

    New poll lows for Nelson after health care vote

    Poll: Brown makes gains in Mass. Senate Race

    According to an American Research Group survey, 52 percent of likely voters back Brown, a state senator, with 45 percent supporting Coakley, the state's attorney general. Meanwhile, 2 percent back Joseph Kennedy, a third party candidate who is not related to the late senator. The 7-point advantage for Brown is just within the poll's sampling error.

    Brown had a 48 to 45 percent advantage in an ARG poll released over the weekend.

    The survey indicates 97 percent of likely Republican voters are backing Brown, independent voters supporting him 64 to 32 percent over Coakley, and nearly one out of 4 Democrats also supporting Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Sad thing is that the Republicans have a base that they love to court.

    I agree, there are so many special interest groups scattered throughout the Democratic "base" and they cannot keep everyone happy.

    The independents voted in Barack Obama in this nation, and he has not held up his end of the deal. The things that he did do in the last year have been less than fruitful and, while many (including myself) may find President Obama to be a nice guy and very personable - his lack of action and inability to keep his campaign promises is hurting him, and the Democrats in general.

    You can't please everyone all the time. Something has to give.

    Of an interesting note, the past week or so I have read several newspaper and internet articles calling Scott Brown an inexperienced Senator and "little-known" but these were the same descriptors used to describe Mr. Obama......and we were told by many in the left side of the political persuasion that this was a good thing. Funny how it only works for Democrats.
    The independent vote was the point of my post. The "base" delivers money and press, but the only way for them to win elections is to get the independent vote. Right now, that independent vote appears to be on an Exodus to the GOP.
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