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    Default Ooooooooooooh the Dems are scared

    Fresh on the heels of the latest poll showing the Democratic Senatorial candidate in Massachusetts trailing, the Dems/liberals/progressives are shaking and truly afraid of Tuesday's election. Living here in the People's Republik this is so freaking fun to watch.

    Vikki Kennedy made an ad pushing for Martha Coakley to fill Teddy's seat. Bill Clinton visits Boston and Worcester today. President Obama visits Boston on Sunday (a last minute decision) after making a "robocall" message for Ms. Coakley yesterday. Man this is so freaking fun to watch.

    The number of absentee ballots in every community has skyrocketed (no way of knowing who they are voting for, of course.) Reports of people stealing Scott Brown for Senate signs , just to put on their lawns.

    The video of Martha Coakley looking at a "Right Wing" reporter on the ground after one of her big supporters pushed him down is hurting her. Too good to be true.

    Even if Mr. Brown loses on Tuesday (and it will be a VERY closely watched squeaker of an election) to make the Dems blow untold millions on a race that they expected to win hands down is precious.

    The Boston Herald reports that Scott Brown has raised $1,000,000 per day this week with an average donation amount reported to be about $78. While Martha Coakley had to fly to D.C. to get $10,000 per person from insurance companies and pharmaceutical lobbyists and corporate big wigs.

    Unlike the Virginia and New Jersey elections which President Obama was not "watching closely" I can guarantee you that he will be biting his nails on Tuesday and Wednesday. A better novel could not be written on this.

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    Tuesday will be a late night. And with all eyes on Massachusetts due to the special election to fill "Ted Kennedy's seat" as the media loves to call it, it will be dicey.

    So fun to watch.
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    Red seat in a state that is bluest of blue ... LOL.

    Little background on this ... in like 2003 when Republican Mit Romney was governor of Massachusetts senator John Kerry was running for president, who by the way served in Vietnam. If Kerry had won the presidency then the open senate seat would have gone to WHOMEVER Mit Romney appointed.

    This scared the democrats that Romney would appoint a Republican so with Ted Kennedy's help, oh the irony, they changed the law to make it a special election to fill an open senate seat.

    It must have been a precious look on the democrats face when they realized that they would have to run a campaign for special election to retain Kennedy's seat, actually the peoples seat. Instead of being appointed like they were use to. Every dollar spent in this race, whether contested or not, just goes to serve them right for screwing with the laws to try to keep themselves in power. That is really what all this is about.

    I would have loved to seen the faces on the democrat party power brokers when they said "our governor will appoint who we tell'em too" ... insert evil laugh here... and prolly some pipsqueak in the back said .. "no, you guys changed the law remember?"

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    Nothing is ever safe in politics.

    The Oklahoma Reps and Senators were almost always Democrats. Then in 1994 every single seat went from D to R. The Democratic Party has only regained one of these seats.

    People forget that Parties don't have a guaranteed seat. It's all about the voters.
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    Don't send all of this weeks $ for improving the world to Haiti.

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    There is nothing in the world that would improve freedom more than taking majority control the US Senate out of the hands of Harry and Barry.

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    Even if Cloakley wins it will by a small margin. Its a kick in the pants either way.

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    The worst thing that could happen is for Scott Brown to relax based on the momentum and poll numbers. He should take that $1m a day and put his face in front of as many football fans as possible this week; telling the world about his vision and view of the future. Tell them why he would vote against something that 65% of the country is also against. Telling them the dangers that his opponents party present. Telling why they should vote for him.

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    This morning's network news was full of how the President was heading to Massachussets to lend his aid to Martha Cloakley's campaign instead of using the Oval Office's power to expedite relief efforts to Haiti.
    What will he say "Cloakley,you're doin' a heckuva job?"
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    Don't send all of this weeks $ for improving the world to Haiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    This morning's network news was full of how the President was heading to Massachussets to lend his aid to Martha Cloakley's campaign instead of using the Oval Office's power to expedite relief efforts to Haiti.
    What will he say "Cloakley,you're doin' a heckuva job?"
    If (and this is a Big If) Brown wins in a traditional long time standing liberal state there will be some democrats reevaluating their stance on the health care bill. Especially considering what happened in NJ and VA in the fall. This could end up being strike 3 for Obama. Even if it is close the democrats will have to take a look at what they are doing and why it is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    Nothing is ever safe in politics.
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    People forget that Parties don't have a guaranteed seat. It's all about the voters.
    Thursday on MSNBC ,I am told that Joe Scarborough was interviewing Scott Borwn and referred to "Ted Kennedy's seat".
    According to USA Today,Bown replied "With all due respect,it is not Ted Kennedy's seat.It is the People's seat.".
    All he has to do is remind voters of that and how the Dems are just sure they own their representation and he'll have a good chance at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    What will he say "Cloakley,you're doin' a heckuva job?"
    Yet another hypothetical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Yet another hypothetical.
    That is the best you can come up with. Hell, less than a week ago you were saying that the Dems would keep the seat, you seem less sure of that - as do a lot of folks in both parties this weekend.

    Martha Coakley has bombed all 3 televised debates, and comes off decent in only a handful of radio talk show debates. She has refused to hit the numerous talk and news shows in the past few weeks. I can't turn the dial to the Boston and Worcester news & radio stations without hearing a part of Scott Brown. The hosts of these shows are screaming for Martha Coakley to call in and take calls and questions from the hosts and listeners - but she refuses to do so. She avoids the electorate, she avoids the media, refuses to answer press questions. It is hurting her tremendously, and there is little that Bill Clinton and President Obama can or will do about it.

    You love to live in the world of hypotheticals, while chastizing anyone else that brings it up. So deal with it.

    And don't think for one moment that Scott Brown will let up in the next 3 days either. With Bill Clinton here yesterday, and President Obama flying in tomorrow he can't stop for one second. He has the Democrats on the run here.

    Even if he loses next week, the Democrats will have had their bells rung hard and they will be all out for the next 10 months. And a lot of seats that they think are safe will be reassessed Wednesday morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    That is the best you can come up with. Hell, less than a week ago you were saying that the Dems would keep the seat, you seem less sure of that - as do a lot of folks in both parties this weekend.
    Brown has made it very clear he has no intention of supporting any regulatory changes to the banking system. Good to know his supporters aren't concerned with reforming the group that caused one of the greatest financial meltdowns in the last 100 years. One can only hope the citizens of MA come to their senses.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Martha Coakley has bombed all 3 televised debates, and comes off decent in only a handful of radio talk show debates. She has refused to hit the numerous talk and news shows in the past few weeks. I can't turn the dial to the Boston and Worcester news & radio stations without hearing a part of Scott Brown. The hosts of these shows are screaming for Martha Coakley to call in and take calls and questions from the hosts and listeners - but she refuses to do so. She avoids the electorate, she avoids the media, refuses to answer press questions. It is hurting her tremendously, and there is little that Bill Clinton and President Obama can or will do about it.
    Shame on the Dems for running such a weak candidate. I didn't realize that when I made my original statement about the Dems keeping the seat.

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    You love to live in the world of hypotheticals, while chastizing anyone else that brings it up. So deal with it.
    As do you?

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    And don't think for one moment that Scott Brown will let up in the next 3 days either. With Bill Clinton here yesterday, and President Obama flying in tomorrow he can't stop for one second. He has the Democrats on the run here.
    I would expect nothing less.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Even if he loses next week, the Democrats will have had their bells rung hard and they will be all out for the next 10 months. And a lot of seats that they think are safe will be reassessed Wednesday morning.
    Which won't matter since Coakley will be there for six years.

    It's a shame Americans have such short memories. Conservatives talk about government failure all the time, constantly. And conservatives, when they're in power deliver government failure. All the problems we face in our nation can be traced back to the Conservative notion that government is the problem. Conservatives compiled the worst track record on jobs in decades. And they ended up with the worst stock market in decades. It was a decade of conservative failure. And yet, Obama's their villain?
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    Thumbs down Irresponsible..........

    I think Y'all know that I live in Maryland. And let me add that I'm a Registered Republican. This past week I've gotten TWO Requests for Donations to the Coakley Campaign........... My Senator here in Maryland is cranking these out instead of working for Maryland's interests in the Senate?? She'll be hearing from me next week, without a Check enclosed.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Yet another hypothetical.
    Ironic since fiction is the basis for most of your debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Thursday on MSNBC ,I am told that Joe Scarborough was interviewing Scott Borwn and referred to "Ted Kennedy's seat".
    According to USA Today,Bown replied "With all due respect,it is not Ted Kennedy's seat.It is the People's seat.".
    All he has to do is remind voters of that and how the Dems are just sure they own their representation and he'll have a good chance at this.
    Scott Brown at the Massachusetts Senate debate. "With all due respect, it's not the Kennedy's seat, it's not the Democrats' seat, it's the people's seat."
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
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    It's a shame Americans have such short memories. Conservatives talk about government failure all the time, constantly. And conservatives, when they're in power deliver government failure. All the problems we face in our nation can be traced back to the Conservative notion that government is the problem. Conservatives compiled the worst track record on jobs in decades. And they ended up with the worst stock market in decades. It was a decade of conservative failure. And yet, Obama's their villain?
    You STILL haven't a clue what a Conservative is or believes Mr leftist. You even think George Bush was. Can't get much more deluded.

    When have CONSERVATIVES had control in DC? Reagan as President for 4 years. Brief take over of the House in 1994 was RINOs lead by some Conservatives. Senate has not been controlled by Conservatives ever.

    That's it. We've had had decades of control of various combinations of these three in the last 100 years by leftist/progressive dems. Always with incompetence and corruption. But what can you expect. Take a failed belief system, lace with the typical machine dem politics and you get their longrunning record of failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Brown has made it very clear he has no intention of supporting any regulatory changes to the banking system. Good to know his supporters aren't concerned with reforming the group that caused one of the greatest financial meltdowns in the last 100 years.
    Why should he? Over the past decade plus the regulatory system was not enforced. Why should we pass more laws if the ones we already have are not enforced? Taxation of banks does nothing, and taxation or assessments to the banks, like increased costs in a business, are only going to be passed on to those of this nation that are account holders in those big, failed, incompetant banks. And nothing will change.

    Many liberals/Democrats/progressives also are short on recalling that people made many of their own financially stupid mistakes. Overspent, bought homes that were overvalues, overpriced, and under built. People in our nation over extended themselves financially, and the banks were stupid and irresponsible in their lending practices. It is not just the banks that acted stupidly - there is a lot of personal stupidity and irresponsibility that occurred within the last 10 years. To blame only the banks is very disingenuous.

    Remember, the current Secretary of the Treasury tried to keep the actions of large banks concealed while we bailed them out. Nice how you only go after Republicans/conservatives and not Democrats/liberals/progressives.

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    One can only hope the citizens of MA come to their senses.
    That is right, we can only hope. That is why Scott Brown has been surging in the past month. People in the Commonwealth are sick and tired of a one-party state government. There are 21 of the 200 state Representatives and Senators that are Republicans. In the mid 1990s, the state legislature increased state income tax 20% and when the electorate voted to return it to 5%, the legislature pre-empted the voter's will and refused to lower the state income tax back to that point - we have been at 5.3% for several years - in violation of what the voters wanted.

    In August of 2009 the legislature increased sales tax 25% to 6.25% on everything but food and clothing. We have had a state legislature that has done everything to protect a Senator (James Marzilli) who sexually molested numerous women 2 years ago. We have just gone through a state Senator who left the scene of a personal injury accident and was protected without sanction (Anthony Gallucio). Another Rep. was caught taking bribes in Boston (Diane Wilkerson) by the FBI while the state Attorney General (one Martha Coakley) has refused to enforce state ethics laws. Two of the previous 3 state Speakers of the House of Representatives have been convicted of Federal felonies (Charles Flaherty and Tom Fineran) and the most recent House Speaker is under Federal indictment. All of these state legislators were Democrats, all occurred within the past 10 years, and Martha Coakley has done NOTHING to enforce the state laws, and the FBI had to essentially do her job for her.

    Martha Coakley has refused to prosecute a Police Officer for sodomizing a child with a hot curling iron.

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/..._05_rape_case/

    She fought to keep a dubiously convicted man in jail (Gerald Amirault) during the Fells Acres Daycare trial. The state parole board voted 5-0 (which NEVER HAPPENS) to release the man, and Ms. Coakley fought to keep a man that the state parole board said had a "high likelihood" of being wrongfully convicted in jail - the then governor (Jane Swift) agreed and kept him in jail an additional 2 years.

    We have a dimwit governor (Deval Patrick) who has cut very little in the state budget while pushing for every tax and fee he can find in the state. He ran on the premise of providing property tax relief (while municipal property taxes have skyrocketed over the past 3 years) on top of state sales tax, and numerous fees. The size of the state government has increased, he has been caught trying to hire, elevate, and promote numerous Democratic hacks into the state government despite a hiring freeze.

    The people of the Commonwealth are fed up with it all, and want a different representative in office than Martha Coakley - who has proven herself to be part of the state's political machinery, beholden to them, and incapable of doing her job as Attorney General. Her little trip to D.C. to get a few hundred thousand from "Big Pharma" and insurance companies on Tuesday did not exactly help her image here - especially in light of her statements during the debate on Monday where she said she has fought against "Big Pharma."

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Shame on the Dems for running such a weak candidate. I didn't realize that when I made my original statement about the Dems keeping the seat.
    All the Dems do is run weak candidates. Sad thing is that with the exception of Mr. Brown the Republicans are always running even weaker candidates (just look up Jack E. Robinson.)

    Allen Kazie and Steve Pagliuca were equally weak. Both infused millions of their own dollars into their compaigns while championing for the average guy.

    Scott Brown may not be the greatest candidate out there, but he is - in many people's eyes - far better than the alternative. After 47 years of Ted Kennedy holding the seat, previously held by his brother John, it should have easily been an easy hand off to another proud Democrat. That is not the case - thankfully - and it is a wonderful thing to actually see a close election where both people running for the seat are actually having to work hard to get it. Sad thing is that the Democrats were caught well off their guard in this race. Me thinks it is a sign of things to come.

    The lies and dribble coming out of the Massachusetts Democratic Party that I have received in the past 2 weeks is quite funny, and incorrect when one looks at the facts. So funny to watch the entrenched electorate squirm.

    There is another slight under current here. Come 2012, one of the 10 elected U.S. Representatives will likely be out of a job. Massachusetts is one of the few states that has lost population. The Dems are scared, and every couple of days we are seeing articles about the Dems and various "immigration groups" trying to beat the bushes to get the illegal immigrant population to talk to the Cenus bureau when they start to come around in a few months. Mass. will lose another seat - we lost one about 15 years ago and every one of the Dems in office now are going to be freaked out when they have to decide whose district to eliminate. Tom Finneran (one of the aforementioned, previously convicted House Speakers) was convicted of lying under oath about the last congressional redistricting. Remember, as Markus has pointed out - Gerrymandering is a term with its originations here in Massachusetts.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    As do you?
    I do, however you are the one that whines when others do it telling us to not live in the world of hypotheticals and that you prefer to not discuss them. But then you turn around and speak in them all the time.

    Just calling you on your hypocracy.

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    I would expect nothing less.
    Nor should you.

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    Which won't matter since Coakley will be there for six years.
    We'll have to see what happens in the next 2 weeks. Don't be surprised if she is not elected. I would love to see Scott Brown win, but I suspect he will lose.

    The election is Tuesday, and the towns have 7-10 days to collect the absentee ballots, then report them to the Secretary of State who will certify the election.

    Considering his past actions with Nikki Tsongas being freshly elected and certified to the U.S. House of Representatives only 2 days after the election, Bill Galvin is under A LOT of scrutiny here to act on the up and up and give the winner of this election the same courtesy.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    It's a shame Americans have such short memories. Conservatives talk about government failure all the time, constantly. And conservatives, when they're in power deliver government failure.
    Don't forget that it is not only a President that gets the blame. The Democrats have been "in charge" of both houses of Congress since 2006. They have done NOTHING to correct President Bush's actions, laws, and spending (of which many Democrats voted in favor of by the way) so they are just as culpable. People are getting real tired of the old line that everything is George Bush's fault. Much is, but there is much blame to go around - like the inhibition of reformation and restriction of Fannie/Freddie a full year prior to their financial meltdown (after guaranteeing mortgages that we know should not have been issued.) Barney Frank has been held to the fire for this locally - he did after all promote one of his ex-boyfriends to be one of the top administrators at Fannie Mae.

    Thing is that both parties deliver failure, however you are like most ideologues - you only see one side's failure while not even acknowledging others'.

    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    All the problems we face in our nation can be traced back to the Conservative notion that government is the problem.
    Government is not necessarily the problem - our growing, overly pervasive government that seeks to provide for everyone's wants and needs is the problem.

    I also would love for you to back this statement up, instead of making your statement so broad.

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    Conservatives compiled the worst track record on jobs in decades. And they ended up with the worst stock market in decades. It was a decade of conservative failure. And yet, Obama's their villain?
    Mr. Obama is not "their villain", his programs which were supposed to correct all those conservative failures are. Unemployment is 25% higher than what Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden said it would be. Very little of the money has been released (hell Massachusetts is 49th out of 50 in releasing stimulus funds.) Money has been used, not to stimulate growth - but to fill holes in municipal and state budgets. We p$$ed away more than $2,000,000,000 on "Cars for Clunkers" and have no tangible benefits from it. We have a $1,000,000,000,000 health care bill before us that the majority of the people are unhappy with, gets half of its funding from budgetary cuts to Medicare & Medicaid.

    Both parties are responsible for our current situation - yet you only blame one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Ironic since fiction is the basis for most of your debates.
    Precisely. GIve him a hypothetical situation, and you get a squirm out of him accompanying the line "I don't like to deal in hypotheticals."

    And he criticizes me for calling him a hypocrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    I think Y'all know that I live in Maryland. And let me add that I'm a Registered Republican. This past week I've gotten TWO Requests for Donations to the Coakley Campaign........... My Senator here in Maryland is cranking these out instead of working for Maryland's interests in the Senate?? She'll be hearing from me next week, without a Check enclosed.......
    Hee hee. The complaints from the voters about the "robo calls" from both candidates is high.

    I may vote for a candidate, I may support a candidate, but I have never been willing to donate money to a candidate. I likely never will, though Mr. Brown has brought me about as close as I have ever felt the need to donate. I figure the $1,000,000 per day + is more than enough.

    Harve, oOne would think that you Senator would realize that your name is in the Republican column before he comes around with his hat in his hand.

    Though this brings up a point that has always bothered me. The ruckmakers and rumpswabs always take money from out of state donors. No candidate for U.S. Senate or the U.S. House of Representatives should ever take money from an out of state donor - the race has nothing to do with anyone out of state.

    As seen in our debate on Monday - Martha Coakley was speaking that the health care bill was right for our nation. Scott Brown pointed out numerous reasons why the proposed health care bills needing reconciliation (done in private of course ) are bad for our Commonwealth. I understand that a Senator deals with national and worldly issues - however those issues are to weighed in the interest of their state (or in our case, Commonwealth.) Not what the President wants. Not what the Democratic or Republican party wants. What is in the best interest for the people, individually and collectively of their respective state or Commonwealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    You STILL haven't a clue what a Conservative is or believes Mr leftist. You even think George Bush was. Can't get much more deluded.
    Really? Then who were conservatives backing all those years?

    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    When have CONSERVATIVES had control in DC? Reagan as President for 4 years. Brief take over of the House in 1994 was RINOs lead by some Conservatives. Senate has not been controlled by Conservatives ever.
    Apparently you missed the first six years of the decade. I would like you to find a GOP legislator who didn't consider themselves a conservative.

    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    That's it. We've had had decades of control of various combinations of these three in the last 100 years by leftist/progressive dems. Always with incompetence and corruption. But what can you expect. Take a failed belief system, lace with the typical machine dem politics and you get their longrunning record of failure.
    And conservatism leads the way. They have not one point of their ideology that can be considered a success.
    Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."

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