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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Gang showers.
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    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Powdered soap!
    Boraxo chafes me.
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Boraxo chafes me.
    TMI.
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

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    dont ask dont tell.
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    where's scarecrow?
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    where's scarecrow?
    Picking up soap flakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajm611 View Post
    where's scarecrow?
    Who gives a fat rat's rump?
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Who gives a fat rat's rump?
    I'm just worried to death about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleman View Post
    I'm just worried to death about it.
    Same here. Mere words can't describe how I feel.
    Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."

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    Fracking "A"... that is a balls on accurate assessment!
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Oh my....that type of common sense blog will NOT get him invited to the "Safety Sally" holiday party.
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    I agree with him, to a limted extent, in thoery.

    Yes, we need to be trained. Not once have I said that we should not be. What I have said is that we need to be trained to the level of firefighting the department wishes to perform. We need to be trained to conduct the operations our departments perform. And we need to be fully trained in operations that are relevant to buildings in hazards in the district utilizing ther equipment and apparatus the department operates.

    So yes, that means a very small department with a limited structurak stock ansd limited amount of equipemnt needs to be trained to that level. meaning if they never come within 2o miles of a hydrant, and there are many departments like that, they don't need hydrant ops. If they don;'t own a K12 gueess what .....

    Most of you disagree with me on that but the reality is that the vasy majority of the firefighters in this counrty are volunteers with a limited amount of time. And you all know where I'm headed with that ....

    As far as fitness, it would be wonderful if ecery FF in this country was a speciman.

    The fact is his post is unrealistic.

    I won't even discuss his macho "we're fireman" tone ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFDRum View Post
    Oh my....that type of common sense blog will NOT get him invited to the "Safety Sally" holiday party.
    I've been to the Safet Sallie Holiday party. It's not much fun.

    No dancing ... You might slip and fall.

    No appetizers on a toothpick ... Ya might take out an eye.

    No c o c ktail wennies or melon balls ... That's just a chocking incident waiting to happen.

    No loud bands .... May rupture an eardrum.

    And above all .... No smoothbores as we all know they suck (Back at ya FWD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    And above all .... No smoothbores as we all know they suck (Back at ya FWD)
    You wouldnt know a real nozzle if someone shoved it up your a s s and used it as an enigma.
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    enigma=/= enema.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleman View Post
    I'm just worried to death about it.
    I'll be in his neck of the woods Sunday if you are that concerned.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    I agree with him, to a limted extent, in thoery.

    Yes, we need to be trained. Not once have I said that we should not be. What I have said is that we need to be trained to the level of firefighting the department wishes to perform.
    This only works if you can insure that a fire will conform to your level of training...

    We need to be trained to conduct the operations our departments perform. And we need to be fully trained in operations that are relevant to buildings in hazards in the district utilizing ther equipment and apparatus the department operates.
    A fire department needs to be trained to perform... period. You have to be able to anticipate what you can expect.. you cannot say "@#$! it, we're going back to quarters. You may not have a structure with more than 3 floors, but I'm sure that the refinery in your area of protection has a cracking tower.. which is a hell of a lot higher than 30 feet , using the 10 feet per floor rule of thumb.

    So yes, that means a very small department with a limited structurak stock ansd limited amount of equipemnt needs to be trained to that level. meaning if they never come within 2o miles of a hydrant, and there are many departments like that, they don't need hydrant ops. If they don;'t own a K12 gueess what ....
    .

    If you want us to believe that these poor rural brothers don't know how to use a chain saw or a rotary saw... it isn't going to happen.

    Axes don't need fuel, blades or oil. They always start.. they may take a litle longer, but they work. City jakes may never draft, yet they learn drafting and relay pumping.. and it doesn't take a rocket scientist or brain surgeon to figure out how to hook up to an open a hydrant...

    Most of you disagree with me on that but the reality is that the vasy majority of the firefighters in this counrty are volunteers with a limited amount of time. And you all know where I'm headed with that ....
    It's amazing what a firefighter can learn in an hour or two of time at a drill. It doesn't have to be fancy stuff.. just the basics.

    You are making up **** poor excuses again... but then, you are really good at it.

    As far as fitness, it would be wonderful if ecery FF in this country was a speciman.

    The fact is his post is unrealistic.

    I won't even discuss his macho "we're fireman" tone ......
    Actually.. everyone is a specimen.. the minute you put the gear on.. you are a specimen. I know some big guys who run rings around the kids, I know some big guys who huff and puff just hearing the tones. I know physically fit guys that still manage to get banged up at fires (most of them have the nick name "boo-boo" ) and guys that go an entire career without as much as a scratch. Once again... you are wrong. At least you're consistent.
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    Hell, even this guy makes LA look like a wussy, and he is a fracking politician.

    Mass. Lt. Gov. Pulls Kids From Burning Minivan
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    Posted: Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:42am
    Updated: Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:47am
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    WORCESTER, Mass. --

    This wasn't part of the job description when Timothy Murray was voted lieutenant governor of Massachusetts.

    Murray is being hailed for pulling two children out of a burning minivan in Worcester, about 40 miles west of Boston.

    Murray was driving through his hometown at about 7 p.m. on Tuesday when he noticed smoke and flames coming from a parked minivan's tire.

    He stopped and called 911, then heard someone yell that there were children inside. Murray helped the children out of the van, and brought them to their grandmother, who had been driving. He tells The Telegram & Gazette she told him she was worried that he was trying to steal the car or the kids and was "about to punch him."

    Firefighters arrived seconds later to put out the fire, which they called minor.

    Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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