Real men go interior to make a grab.....

[Rescue101]

Did anyone else just throw up on their keyboard?

Nope,got a trash can right next to mine,T.C.

[Chenzo]

He already said he would let his own family burn to death if the conditions were what he deemed to dangerous for him to enter. He further said he would stop firefighters from entering if he felt it was too dangerous.

Incorrect Sir.

I never stated that I would allow my own family to burn to death if conditions were too dangerous. I would do anything to save my family. They are my family and are my responsibility.

However, I did say that I would stop firefighters from entering the structure. I also did say that I would hold absolutly no ill will towards firefighters that decided to not make entry on a structure in which memebers of my family were.
I'd put money on you being the only person in the history of forever saying this. Do you even have family? Do give a **** about them?
I would be able to live with my family dying in a fire. It happens. I would have a very tough tough time living with myself if (a) firefighter(s) were killed rescueing or attempting to rescue my family.
where the **** are your priorities man? You've got to be kidding me. You seriously disgust me to no end. I hope your wife knows how little you car about your familys well being.

They are not thier responsibility.

And I already covered this last point. I think you need to reevaluate your priorities. Firefighter lives are very important, but you better believe that the lives of my family come before anyone elses, including my own.

[FireMedic049]

By the way, I am volunteer. My department is 100% volunteer. We recieve no pay for what we do. When I respond to a call it's my own gas. When I clean the fire station, I do it on my own time. When I am on the scene of an emergency I am opertating 100% FOR FREE. And let me tell you, I LOVE what I do. There are some things in life that are more important than money like......SOMEONES LIFE.

Tell that to the widow and children of a firefighter who is killed operating out of his jurisdiction as they lose the car and the house.

We don't live in a vacum. Maybe you don;'t think about your family, but I know on the job or as a volunteer in my district, they will be taken care of between federal/state LODD benefits and FD benefits. If I get killed out of my district that's not the case.

They are my priority.

We all live with our choices.

So what you're saying is that you haven't bothered to purchase sufficient life insurance to take care of your family in case you were killed in some sort of accident either?

[NEOgreg]

lol why would anyone tank on these guys? Great job to them and thanks for sharing this!

Apparently son, you're new 'round these parts...

[nmfire]

I didn't, I'm asking you if you would. Since you don't do much else, I'm wondering what your stance is on acting in your capacity as EMS professional outside your town/city/state.

Still waiting.

[BLSboy]

This man was prepared to give his life for his comrades.

L/Cpl Matthew Croucher, 24, was described by the head of the military Sir Jock Stirrup as the "exceptional among the exceptional" for the actions which saw him receive the highest gallantry award.

His mother Margaret and father Richard, said their son's modesty meant they had only found out about the grenade incident after it appeared in the newspapers a few weeks after the incident in February.

"My reaction was 'That's simply Matthew'," his mother said. "There have been so many incidents in private life where he has always put people first."

During a covert pre-dawn patrol to investigate a Taliban bomb factory the Marine walked through a tripwire that sent a grenade rolling to the ground.

Realising it would have covered his three other comrades "head to toe" in shrapnel the Marine jumped chest down onto the bomb.

But a split second later he realised his injuires would be less if he took the blast in his back and rolled over.

After the announcement of the award L/Cpl Croucher recounted the seconds he spent lying on the bomb waiting for it to detonate.

"I had that horrible feeling in my stomach like when you were younger and in loads of trouble. It was a feeling of horror, lying there waiting for it go 'bang'".

"It took only four or five seconds to go off but it felt like an eternity. I thought that was the end."

He added: "If I had my time again I would probably do the same thing.

The action required "extraordinary clarity of thought and remarkable composure" his citation read.

The commando decided not to seek "protection for himself but to attempt to shield the other members of his team from the impending explosion".

Showing a "complete disregard for his own safety" the commando was "quite prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for his fellow Marines".

Miraculously the Marine's Osprey body armour and contents of his backpack saved him from the lethal shards.

The section commander, Cpl Adam Lesley, who was standing up, suffered a shrapnel wound to his nose and L/Cpl Croucher received a bleeding nose but refused medical evacuation.

L/Cpl Croucher said the incident was one of about a dozen in which he had come close to death after serving in Afghanistan and in Iraq three times.

He had been in roadside bomb that did not properly detonate, a rocket propelled grenade attack and had a bullet hit the butt of his rifle during a firefight. The Birmingham-based serviceman, who runs a risk management business while also serving in the Royal Marine Reserves, has been in more than 100 contacts with the enemy and accounted for at least a dozen Taliban during his tour of Afghanistan last year.

The George Cross ranks alongside the Victoria Cross as the highest decoration for acts of gallantry.

The only difference is that the GC is awarded for acts not in the presence of the enemy, but the level of heroism required for the two honours is the same.

[BLSboy]

So did this man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacklyn_H._Lucas

This man gave his life, SO OTHERS MIGHT LIVE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Caddy

The 343 FDNY Members gave their lives evacuating the towers, before they fell. Saved 10s of thousands.

Putting our lives on the line is a part of the job. Deal with it, or go wait tables, pansy ***.

[JMac73]

LA read this http://www.fireacademy.org/Wall-of-H...hane-Kelly.pdf

this guy had B!^^s as big as church bells. it sucks that he died but in turn we got the Gov to sign a law that gave us automatic state wide mutual aid ANY time we are functuining in an emergency capacity. Iam sure most states have someting like this.

Also do the people in your department know what you spew on here? Does you chief suppport you i.e is he a p*##y too? How do you keep the public from knowing wjat kind of danger you retsrds are putting them in? Mabey this stems from there being no "Standards" as you say in your state? How do you still have a job? Mabey we need a press release or someting.

[nmfire]

I'm hoping he is the only one in his department like him. I can't imagine its possible to breed more than one of him every 100 years. Although we do have BirdBrain57, but he's a different kind of stupid.

I didn't, I'm asking you if you would. Since you don't do much else, I'm wondering what your stance is on acting in your capacity as EMS professional outside your town/city/state.

Still waiting.

[LaFireEducator]

This man was prepared to give his life for his comrades.

Military/combat enviroment has nothing to dow ith this discussion.

this guy had B!^^s as big as church bells. it sucks that he died but in turn we got the Gov to sign a law that gave us automatic state wide mutual aid ANY time we are functuining in an emergency capacity. Iam sure most states have someting like this

Nothing like that in LA. It would be nice though.

So what you're saying is that you haven't bothered to purchase sufficient life insurance to take care of your family in case you were killed in some sort of accident either?

My life insurance coverage is adequate. Probably could be uped a little bit though.

Also do the people in your department know what you spew on here? Does you chief suppport you i.e is he a p*##y too? How do you keep the public from knowing wjat kind of danger you retsrds are putting them in? Mabey this stems from there being no "Standards" as you say in your state? How do you still have a job? Mabey we need a press release or someting.

Doubt my Chief would give a damn if I would make a rescue or even lift a finger off-duty and out of the district.

I have absolutly no markings, stickers or lights on my POV and rarely wear any FD shirts.

He cares about what I do on the job, which is my job. He has no problems with how I perform, eiother on the firground or in my admin capicity. He understands that I am more conservative and less aggressive than the majority of our personnel. I make no bones about that around here. Again, he respects that.

[LaFireEducator]

nm ..

As I have stated before, I have and would assist at a medical emergency wherever I am as long as the scene was safe.

[LaFireEducator]

The 343 FDNY Members gave their lives evacuating the towers, before they fell. Saved 10s of thousands.

On the job. How many of those 343 were volunteers acting out of district with no protection for thier famalies?

We are discussing an off the clock situation.

[nmfire]

nm ..

As I have stated before, I have and would assist at a medical emergency wherever I am as long as the scene was safe.

Really? You know you might break a sweat, catch a cold, and could be sued and ruin your family forever, right?

[JMac73]

The 343 FDNY Members gave their lives evacuating the towers, before they fell. Saved 10s of thousands.

On the job. How many of those 343 were volunteers acting out of district with no protection for thier famalies?

We are discussing an off the clock situation.

Seem to remember a story about an FDNY Resuce that was being picked up or something
at FDIC. The boys were rolling thru Indy and started chasing smoke. Went onscene and went to work. So, Iam gunna say you're wrong on that one.

[LaFireEducator]

jmac..

What does that have to do with 9/11?

Some facts would be nice if you want to discuss it.

[LaFireEducator]

lol why would anyone tank on these guys? Great job to them and thanks for sharing this!

Read my post. Never "tanked on them".

JUst pointed out to the newbies that acting off-duty and out of district has potential concequences.

[JMac73]

On the day of Osceola County/Fire Rescue Lt. John Mickell's funeral there was an Engine crew from Hialeiah I believe. They were staying at a family members house in Orlando. They were in class "A" uniform enroute to the funeral and caught a job. Guess you would have just driven by, huh?

[JMac73]

The 343 FDNY Members gave their lives evacuating the towers, before they fell. Saved 10s of thousands.

On the job. How many of those 343 were volunteers acting out of district with no protection for thier famalies?

We are discussing an off the clock situation.

I believe this would definetely considered "off the clock" and "out of district".

[JMac73]

LA do you get paid to sit on FH.com all day?

[JMac73]

LA do you get paid to sit on FH.com all day?

No response, must be lunch time.