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    Quote Originally Posted by firefuss View Post
    I think WE know. I don't think HE knows...
    Oh no, thats what makes it even more vomit inducing. Not only does he know, but he freely admits it and tells everyone else that he is better because of it.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    ^^ Phonetic for "mutt"
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Default I guerss he didn't gert the "memo"...

    Off duty fire captain saves a person from a flaming car vs. freight train collision....

    http://www.morningjournal.com/articl.../mj2184531.txt
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Off duty fire captain saves a person from a flaming car vs. freight train collision....

    http://www.morningjournal.com/articl.../mj2184531.txt
    Another nice save.

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    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/cooper.html

    Good thing it didn't happen on La fire educaters watch.

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    You have to love this line...

    His work finally done, he collapsed and was taken to the ER, where he was then treated for excessive smoke inhalation and a near-terminal case of badassitude.

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    That was freakin' (I'm not allowed to say the word I really want to say) awesome!!! I really like this guy's style of writing and am going to check out the rest of the website. That's the best thing I've read on here in a long, long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    What do you teach in pub ed ? Dont start a fire in your house because i will let you and your family die?

    No.

    But I do stress that fire can move quickly enough, that if you are unprepared, you and your family can easily be killed before the arrival of the fire department.

    Being a primarily rural area, response times can be up to 8-9 minutes for the first engine and another 5-7 for the next due engine. Fact is, more often than not if they haven't escaped by the time we arrive, they are likely dead or no longer viable. I stress that they have to be prepared and do what they need to do to increase their odds due to the fact that they live in a rural area.

    In other words, I teach that getting out of the house is your responsibility and you should not rely on the fire department to do that.

    Smoke detectors - installing, testing and maintaining. keeping bedroom doors closed. Fire drills in the home. Safe cooking and heating practices. All things I teach and all the things included in teaching America how to be responsible for their own fire safety.

    Somehow the fire service has gotten away from teaching that people are responsible for their firesafety.
    And SOMEHOW, there is still a misinformed DoDo doing Pub ed who seems to FORGET that despite ones best preparation and practice,FIRES can and do TRAP people which require Quick,decisive action by a PROPERLY trained and competent FD. The lengths you go to shirk your duty amaze even me and I have a pretty wide tolerance of the unusual. Just UNBELIEVABLE! T.C.

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    And SOMEHOW, there is still a misinformed DoDo doing Pub ed who seems to FORGET that despite ones best preparation and practice,FIRES can and do TRAP people which require Quick,decisive action by a PROPERLY trained and competent FD. The lengths you go to shirk your duty amaze even me and I have a pretty wide tolerance of the unusual. Just UNBELIEVABLE! T.C

    And where did I say all of that?

    Right now we are talking about the decssion to enter fire enviroments without PPE, water, equipment and possibly communications.

    Please tell me what the hell that has to do with a fire department response?

    That is what this debate is about.

    Off-duty personnel have no business engaging in cowboy activities. If one of my firefighters did this they wiould get a dressing down from me. While others on my department would likely consider them a hero see do not see them that way.

    I see them doing a tremendous disservice to their families, and potentially their brothers, who may end up having to rescue them, treat them and possibly deal with their death.

    On the response side people have always died in fires and people will continue to die in fires. The reality is, in my experience, most victims are dead before we arrive. Can saves be made? Certainly. But there are thousands of FDs who are severely limited and never will receive the proper training to operate in interior environments beyond a single room and contents fires. I accept that. There is nothing that can be done to change that. These firefighters are not cowards but are simply working within their limitations. They must if they are to go home. And they ALWAYS should go home. ALWAYS. We are more important than any civilian.

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    Dumbass,PLEASE note the above is a DIRECT quote from YOU on "your Pub Ed" lesson on fire safety and escape. As a continuation of this FINE thread on what is OFTEN required to save LIFE and property. A LESSON LONG lost on you. I'm just pointing out that no matter how much of your BS you're "teaching" your public,OCCASIONALLY it takes a little more,like a REAL firefighter with some Gonads to make the save. NO, the smoke detector won't carry the victim out. Is THIS really that HARD to figure out? And again,WHY are you here? Burger King is hiring. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Off duty fire captain saves a person from a flaming car vs. freight train collision....

    http://www.morningjournal.com/articl.../mj2184531.txt
    LA has actually addressed issues like this. He made it quite clear in no uncertain terms that he would not ever do such a thing. He might get a rash on his arm.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    LA, you say that if a firefighter on your department attempted a save off-duty without PPE that you would discipline them? You also state that the others on your department would consider him a hero while you wouldn’t? Let me tell you something….

    If I was off-duty and came across a burning house and I was able to make a save and them was later disciplined by a coward “officer” who in the same situation would have let that person die I would tell you to take your discipline and shove it up your ***.
    You replied to a comment I made earlier and said that apparently I don’t care about my family…..remember that???? Well F*** you LA. You know nothing about me. You want to talk about FAMILY, ok let’s talk…

    I am a fourth generation firefighter. My great-grandfather was riding on horse-driven steamers and pulling lines to fight fires. What did your great-grandfather do? My grandfather was a fire captain and the first fire inspector for the city of Vicksburg. What did your grandfather do? My father was a firefighter and rose to the rank of FIRE CHIEF of the Vicksburg Fire Department. He left the department after 25 years and then went and served as Asst. Chief of the Ocean Springs Fire Department. What did your father do? I have been in the fire service now for four years.

    I come from a family of hero’s. You are a coward and a failure. I weep for the firefighters who you teach and the community you “serve”. So don’t say that I am inconsiderate of my family.

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    You wouldnt have to worry about that......She is hot and unsafe to make entry in your book.
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    Great grabs gentlemen on both situations, I salute you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickey View Post
    As far as everything else, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
    Be a pretty damn boring world if we followed that rule, bro.

    Besides, I thought we were having fun at Imitator's expense? Hell, even he seems to enjoy it, egging everyone on like he does...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Off-duty personnel have no business engaging in cowboy activities. If one of my firefighters did this they wiould get a dressing down from me. While others on my department would likely consider them a hero see do not see them that way.
    LOL. Tough Guy. What are you going to do when one of your guys tells you to take your "dressing down" and shove it up your a s s because what they do on their time is their business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Off-duty personnel have no business engaging in cowboy activities. If one of my firefighters did this they wiould get a dressing down from me. While others on my department would likely consider them a hero see do not see them that way.
    I do not know how I missed this part of your post, but I would dare say what you call "Cowboy activities" a vast majority of your department would consider and extention of their oath to protect and serve. It is depressing to know that you maybe negitively influancing young firefighters and EMTs. You are far more dangerous than any arsonist or gunman. Very sad indeed.

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    Originally Posted by LaFireEducator
    Off-duty personnel have no business engaging in cowboy activities. If one of my firefighters did this they wiould get a dressing down from me. While others on my department would likely consider them a hero see do not see them that way
    .

    A dressing down.. in the "Brokeback Mountain" kind of way...
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    I do not know how I missed this part of your post, but I would dare say what you call "Cowboy activities" a vast majority of your department would consider and extention of their oath to protect and serve. It is depressing to know that you maybe negitively influancing young firefighters and EMTs. You are far more dangerous than any arsonist or gunman. Very sad indeed.

    No gear. No SCBA. No tools. No handline. Probably no partner. Even if they have a radio, if they are out of district good chance they have no radio = no communications.

    Sounds cowboy to me.

    Again, I don't beleive the oath (which by the way, I have never taken on any of my 8 departments) to serve and protect extends to operating out of district and off-duty.

    I have never said we don't have a duty while on-duty.
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    LOL. Tough Guy. What are you going to do when one of your guys tells you to take your "dressing down" and shove it up your a s s because what they do on their time is their business?

    Nothinmg. I'll tell them what I think and that will be the end of it. What they do off-duty is thier choice, but especially if they are young, they need to be told to keep the concequences in mind.

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    Jesus H. Christ, could you possibly be any more of a soaking wet, dripping walking pu$$y?!
    I fail to understand why you are in this career field.
    Cool tshirt?
    Flashies on your car?
    Get to pretend to be tough without actually risking anything?
    Do us all a favor, and go take a long walk off a short cliff.
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    Jesus H. Christ, could you possibly be any more of a soaking wet, dripping walking pu$$y?!

    Probably not.

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    I guess its a generational thing, just when did "being a cowboy" become a bad thing ?

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