Paid on-call same department?

[TexasFireWater1977]

Has any one ever heard of a department using there full time staff as paid on call? Sample, “A” shift covers the first paid period of the month meaning if the chief or officer fills that more staff is needed he calls in on-call personnel that are also full time employees.

Thanks,

[TNFF319]

I know a dept that has fulltime hourly firefighters who are required to volunteer once they are off the clock.

[Capt387]

I know a dept that has fulltime hourly firefighters who are required to volunteer once they are off the clock.

Can't do that. Fed wage and hour thing if I had to guess. I know if I am responding to mutual aid on my VFD for my career FD, I am no longer volunteering because I am off the clock.

[TNFF319]

Can't do that. Fed wage and hour thing if I had to guess. I know if I am responding to mutual aid on my VFD for my career FD, I am no longer volunteering because I am off the clock.

I know. I've told them they can't, but they can do whatever they want.

[Capt387]

I know. I've told them they can't, but they can do whatever they want.

Most states abide by secrecy if you report a issue, what most call a whistleblower. They will protect you by not allowing your name to be printed. Might be worth checking into. Have them get Germantown's opinion on it. BTW did Piperton ever put on a paid crew? They were talking about it a couple of years ago.

[FireMedic049]

Has any one ever heard of a department using there full time staff as paid on call? Sample, “A” shift covers the first paid period of the month meaning if the chief or officer fills that more staff is needed he calls in on-call personnel that are also full time employees.

Thanks,

Not sure if your question was clear enough. Maybe you could clarify some?

Assuming that the people being called in to "fill" are being properly compensated, then many departments do what you describe, but not necessarily in the fashion you describe.

If my department needs additional staffing (or to cover vacancies that drop us below minimum staffing), then we call in our full-time FFs to fill and they are paid at OT rate. We have a procedure that dictates which order the off-duty shifts are called in such cases.

We also do call backs of personnel for working fires.