Grant INCREASES-how are price increases handled?

[geefireman]

I know, most of you have not received notice but I have my 1199 and my 10Qs and I I have started looking into pricing for my Tender. Chassis have gone up a lot more than I anticipated a long with body increases. If that is truly the case of coming up short, how do you request additional funds to cover the shortage?

[JSMV72]

Hopefully some of the grant guru's will chime in here. But I looked into being just a bit short one year and was told from one of the grant writers that you cannot ask for additional funds??? Hope for your case that is not true, this is just what I ran across two years ago.

[onebugle]

I know, most of you have not received notice but I have my 1199 and my 10Qs and I I have started looking into pricing for my Tender. Chassis have gone up a lot more than I anticipated a long with body increases. If that is truly the case of coming up short, how do you request additional funds to cover the shortage?

You cannot request additional funds if costs have increased. Any costs that exceed the awarded amount must be made up by your department.

[medstudent13]

You cannot request additional funds if costs have increased. Any costs that exceed the awarded amount must be made up by your department.

Do you advise negotiating the reduction when you get the notice and Qs? Would that put your entire grant at-risk of being revoked?

[SVFD2601]

I was lucky enough to find a pre-emission truck. You may want to start lokking for last years model they are coming in around $230,000 the new emissions are 13 to 15,000 higher. I have found several pre emission trucks, but they are flying off the lots.

[onebugle]

Do you advise negotiating the reduction when you get the notice and Qs? Would that put your entire grant at-risk of being revoked?

You have the right to appeal the reduction once you recieve it. Just have documentation to defend your point. Make sure you have multiple prices to prove that you cannot purchase an item for what they will give you. You may recieve full restoration or partial restoration of the funds or just a great big no.

I have been told it's a 50/50 chance.

[islandfire03]

Do you advise negotiating the reduction when you get the notice and Qs? Would that put your entire grant at-risk of being revoked?

I've had two grants come in with reductions. One we provided proof that we could not complete the request with the reduced funds and were successful in getting the funding restored. The other one they told us we could get the equipment for the price they were offering. We had to go back to the vendors and get them to sharpen their pencils pretty hard..
Medstudent: You can always request a review of the reduction and not endanger the lowered funding offering. To be successful you will have to get quotes from several different vendors to show that the ambulance you described in your application and narrative cannot be purchased for the reduced funding. The worst that can happen is they say no and AFG funds your department for 80% of a brand new safe & reliable ambulance , with you having to come up with the balance.
It's still a great deal for your service, getting 80 cents on the dollar paid for by AFG.

[medstudent13]

I've had two grants come in with reductions. One we provided proof that we could not complete the request with the reduced funds and were successful in getting the funding restored. The other one they told us we could get the equipment for the price they were offering. We had to go back to the vendors and get them to sharpen their pencils pretty hard..
Medstudent: You can always request a review of the reduction and not endanger the lowered funding offering. To be successful you will have to get quotes from several different vendors to show that the ambulance you described in your application and narrative cannot be purchased for the reduced funding. The worst that can happen is they say no and AFG funds your department for 80% of a brand new safe & reliable ambulance , with you having to come up with the balance.
It's still a great deal for your service, getting 80 cents on the dollar paid for by AFG.

Ok. Thank you. So, I actually will need to get quotes BEFORE the award then. I won't send out my spec sheet. I'll just ask if they can give us a type III 4x4 new ambulance for $123,500. That's exactly how I described the vehicle in the narrative.

I'm just glad to hear that I won't endanger my potential award by going against the grain and trying to negotiate the price.

[islandfire03]

Ok. Thank you. So, I actually will need to get quotes BEFORE the award then. I won't send out my spec sheet. I'll just ask if they can give us a type III 4x4 new ambulance for $123,500. That's exactly how I described the vehicle in the narrative.

I'm just glad to hear that I won't endanger my potential award by going against the grain and trying to negotiate the price.

One more thing : DO not send the ten questions back until you speak to with the grants specialist who sends them to you if you plan to appeal the reduction. They will tell you the process to follow from there. Always follow up any phone conversation with an E-mail so you have written record of what transpired on the phone. Documentation is key to making the process go smoothly. The grey area here is that even though you get firm quotes from multiple vendors in order to appeal the reduction, you will still have to get them to redo them after you are awarded to follow the program guidelines.