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    Default The Dems Miss Another Opportunity to Keep Their Word, Part II

    So today the President released his budget with a $1.6 Trillion deficit. And didn't he just the the other day say he was going to cut spending? Next year he 'projects" a $1.3 Trillion deficit (about what this year's was.)

    In 2008 he was running saying he was going to reign in spending and cut the deficit, yet both budgets he has thus far proposed have had record deficits. And Congress will likely essentially rubber stamp the budget anyway.

    Just a continuation of Washington doing whatever the hell it is they want to do. Many I hope the incumbents get a dope slap upside the head in January.

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    Obama vows to address record deficit woes
    President decries 'what can only be described as a decade of profligacy'
    The Associated Press
    updated 10:58 a.m. ET, Mon., Feb. 1, 2010
    WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama sent Congress a $3.83 trillion budget on Monday that would pour more money into the fight against high unemployment, boost taxes on the wealthy and freeze spending for a wide swath of government programs.

    Speaking from the White House hours after the budget's release, the president decried "what can only be described as a decade of profligacy."

    He pledged to "do what it takes" to create jobs, while asking lawmakers to follow his lead on reducing "waste in programs I care about."

    Obama added, "changing spending as usual depends on changing politics as usual."

    The deficit for this year would surge to a record-breaking $1.56 trillion, topping last year's then unprecedented $1.41 trillion gap. The deficit would remain above $1 trillion in 2011 although the president proposed to institute a three-year budget freeze on a variety of programs outside of the military and homeland security as well as increasing taxes on energy producers and families making more than $250,000.

    Echoing the pledge in his State of the Union address to make job creation his top priority, Obama put forward a budget that included a $100 billion jobs measure that would provide tax breaks to encourage businesses to boost hiring as well as increased government spending on infrastructure and energy projects. He called for fast congressional action to speed relief to millions left unemployed in the worst recession since the 1930s.

    After a protracted battle on health care dominated his first year in office and led to a string of Democratic election defeats, the administration hopes its new budget will convince Americans the president is focused on fixing the economy.

    Republicans complained about Obama's proposed tax increases and said the huge projected deficits showed he had failed to get government spending under control. But administration officials argued that Obama inherited a deficit that was already topping $1 trillion when he took office and given the severity of the downturn, the president had to spend billions of dollars stabilizing the financial system and jump-starting growth.

    Obama's job proposals would push government spending in 2010 to $3.72 trillion, up 5.7 percent from last year. Obama's blueprint for the 2011 budget year, which begins Oct. 1, would increase spending further to $3.83 trillion, 3 percent higher than projected for this year.

    Much of the spending surge over the past two years reflects the cost of the $787 billion economic stimulus measure that Congress passed in February 2009 to deal with the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. The surge in the deficits reflects not only the increased spending but also a big drop in tax revenues, reflecting the 7.2 million people who have lost jobs since the recession began and weaker corporate tax receipts.


    "Having steered the economy back from the brink of a depression, the administration is committed to moving the nation from a recession to recovery by sparking job creation to get millions of Americans back to work," the administration said in a statement accompanying its budget.


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    The administration's $100 billion proposed jobs measure would be lower than a $174 billion bill passed by the House in December but far higher than a measure that the Senate could take up as early as this week.

    Obama's new budget attempts to navigate between the opposing goals of pulling the country out of a deep recession and getting control of runaway budget deficits.

    On the anti-recession front, Obama's new budget proposed extending the popular Making Work Pay middle-class tax breaks of $400 per individual and $800 per couple through 2011. They were due to expire after this year. The budget also proposes making $250 payments to Social Security recipients to bolster their finances in a year when they are not receiving the normal cost-of-living boost to their benefit checks because of low inflation. Obama will also seek a $25 billion increase in payments to help recession-battered states.

    In a bow to worries over the soaring deficits, the administration proposed a three-year freeze on spending beginning in 2011 for many domestic government agencies. It would save $250 billion over the next decade by following the spending freeze with caps that would keep increases after 2013 from rising faster than inflation.


    Military, veterans, homeland security and big benefit programs such as Social Security and Medicare would not feel the pinch. Federal support for elementary and high school education would get a big increase as would the Pell Grant college tuition program which would see an increase of $17 billion to just under $35 billion, helping an additional 1 million students.

    The administration said it was proposing the largest funding increase in the history of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, a $3 billion increase to $28 billion plus an additional $1 billion if Congress agrees to some major changes in the law.

    The administration would also provide an additional $1.35 billion for the president's Race to the Top challenge, a federal grant program in which 40 states are competing for $4 billion in education money included in last year's stimulus bill. Obama hailed the results of this effort in his State of the Union speech.


    The New York Times reported Monday the administration was seeking a sweeping overhaul of the No Child Left Behind law that will call for broad changes in how schools are judged to be succeeding or failing.

    In Obama's new budget, the Department of Homeland Security would get an additional $734 million to support the deployment of up to 1,000 advanced imaging airport screening machines and new baggage screening equipment to detect explosives. Those increases represented a response to the Christmas Day bombing attempt on an airliner landing in Detroit.

    The president's budget seeks a $33 billion increase in a supplemental appropriation this year for the military and $159.3 billion in 2011 to support Obama's boost strategy to deal with the terrorist threat in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    NASA's mission to return astronauts to the moon would be grounded with the space agency instead getting an additional $5.9 billion over five years to encourage private companies to build, launch and operate their own spacecraft for the benefit of NASA and others. NASA would pay the private companies to carry U.S. astronauts.

    Obama's budget repeats his recommendations for an overhaul of the nation's health care system even though prospects for passage of a final bill have darkened given the loss of a Democratic Senate seat in Massachusetts in a recent special election, depriving Obama's party of the votes needed to break a Republican filibuster.

    'Start over'
    Presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs insisted Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" that the push for health care was "still inside the 5-yard line" but Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said the public was overwhelmingly against the bill and the administration should "put it on the shelf, go back and start over."


    Video: Hunt on Obama's GOP meeting, deficit, and paranoid politics

    In addition to the freeze on discretionary nonsecurity spending, Obama is proposing to boost revenues by allowing the Bush administration tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 to expire at the end of this year for families making more than $250,000 annually, which the administration projects would raise $678 billion over the next decade. Tax relief for those less well-off would be extended.

    The new Obama budget will also include a proposal to levy a fee on the country's biggest banks to raise an estimated $90 billion to recover losses from the government's $700 billion financial rescue fund. Those losses are expected to come not from the bank bailouts but from the support extended to General Motors and Chrysler and insurance giant American International Group as well as help provided to homeowners struggling to avoid foreclosures.

    Also on the deficit front, the president has endorsed a pay-as-you-go proposal that passed the Senate last week. It would require any new tax cuts or entitlement spending increases to be paid for, and he has promised to create a commission to recommend by year's end ways to trim the deficits. Administration officials briefing reporters on Sunday declined to say when the commission would be appointed.


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    "It was my understanding, that there would be no math in this debate."

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    Angry Spending Freeze

    More political smoke and mirriors for the Dems. Freeze only effects about 1/8 of the total budget according to pundits. So another promise that only his poorly educated Dem base will believe and will have little effect on the run away spending. If his lips are moving, he is lying. May the wrath of the voters decend on the Libs in 2010.

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    did the math, it is nearly an 8% increase. This at a time when spending should be going down. NO SS increases but raise the government spending. What a buffoon!!!

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    Pray that Barack Hussein Obama never learns what comes after "trillion".And if you are of the Bible reading sort,remember this bumper sticker "Pray for Obama.Psalms 109:8"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    did the math, it is nearly an 8% increase. This at a time when spending should be going down. NO SS increases but raise the government spending. What a buffoon!!!
    Congress got their raise this year,though.(sarcasm) Thank GOD that bill passed.(sarcasm off)
    During the State of the Union address,wasn't he talking about using surplus money to pay for some of the programs?I thought we didn't HAVE any extra money.
    If we do,where did it come from?
    If a nation has extra money laid back in its Treasury,it's because the taxpayers were overcharged and the money should be returned to them,not spent on some program without debate or voting on it.
    Who would walk out of the grocery store after learning that they'd been overcharged without walking back in to demand their money back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    If a nation has extra money laid back in its Treasury,it's because the taxpayers were overcharged and the money should be returned to them,not spent on some program without debate or voting on it.
    Or at the very least spent to pay down our skyrocketing debt. Alas, we citizens just lap it up so these Congressmen can bring that money back to their districts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Congress got their raise this year,though.(sarcasm) Thank GOD that bill passed.(sarcasm off)
    During the State of the Union address,wasn't he talking about using surplus money to pay for some of the programs?I thought we didn't HAVE any extra money.
    If we do,where did it come from?
    If a nation has extra money laid back in its Treasury,it's because the taxpayers were overcharged and the money should be returned to them,not spent on some program without debate or voting on it.
    Who would walk out of the grocery store after learning that they'd been overcharged without walking back in to demand their money back?
    You know, I got beat up pretty good for saying that over in the Milwaukee closed a fire house thread. They were going to dip into the reserves to keep the station open.

    However, I can see having some reserves available. For times when the inevitable economic downturn takes place the government will not have to add to the problem by taxing the people harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    Or at the very least spent to pay down our skyrocketing debt. Alas, we citizens just lap it up so these Congressmen can bring that money back to their districts.
    HEY!! Obama is practicing fiscal restraint. His budget is only an 8% increase. I wonder what it would be if he wasn't restraining himself? We just went through a year where the GDP fell, given that scenario taxes across the board should go down as well.

    Great part, my income in 2009 was $1000 less than in 2008. Yet my taxes across the board have all gone up. And this doesn't include the hidden taxes, fees, etc.

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