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    what is a quad?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmd2323 View Post
    what is a quad?
    Has the following; - pump, hose bed, ground ladders, water tank.



    Triple combination would be; - pump, hose bed, water tank



    Quint; - Pump , hose bed, ground ladders, water tank, aerial ladder
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    To clarify OldTimer's post, there is a certain number of total feet of ground ladders required to be considered a quad. I can't remember how many; the number 232 keeps coming to mind.

    Anyhow, quads are typically as long as a night in jail. To wit: Okolona (KY) Quad 8045 shown in 1983.

    (side note: My former department bought this truck from them, sans pump, and installed a bigger tank, running it as a tanker for a while. We never got around to putting another pump in.)
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    Quads are something you see very little of today.

    They were extremly popular, especially in smaller communities right up through the 50's and 60's, then started to fade away. Basically they functioned as a truck company without the stick, while still retaining firefighting capabilities. While they carried more ladders than an engine, it was not quite a full compliment of truck company ladders. They would carry more salvage and overhaul equipment than an engine as well.

    A variation on that theme was the City Service Truck, which did not have a pump, tank or hose, but it carried a full ladder truck compliment of ladders and full truck company FE, ventilation and salvage tools and equipment. They often had a significant power plant as well for scene lighting. They started to disappera about the same time as the quad.

    A department I was on about 25 years ago operated a modified quad. They took a standard pumper, stripped off the hard suction and added a 2nd set of ladders as well as 2 K-12s, 2 chainsaws and a pretty extensive set of hooks of FE/overhaul tools. It still retained the hose bed, the pump and the tank so it could still function as an engine if needed. We operated as the first due "truck" for ourselves and 2 other districts, and the 2nd due "truck" for the other 4 departments in the town. As I understand it, they operated it until about 10 years ago.

    Note: Only 1 district out of 7 in the town operated an aerial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    To clarify OldTimer's post, there is a certain number of total feet of ground ladders required to be considered a quad. I can't remember how many; the number 232 keeps coming to mind.

    Anyhow, quads are typically as long as a night in jail. To wit: Okolona (KY) Quad 8045 shown in 1983.

    (side note: My former department bought this truck from them, sans pump, and installed a bigger tank, running it as a tanker for a while. We never got around to putting another pump in.)
    I'm thinking one of the ladders had to be a Bangor, but I also recall the total number of feet was a requirement.

    The "City Service Truck" was replaced by some agencies with a "Ladder Tender", which had everything except the stick. No sense running the very expensive aerial to a vehicle trap...

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    A Quad is a Squad with the "S" missing....
    someone had to say it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    A Quad is a Squad with the "S" missing....
    someone had to say it....
    So does that mean a tanker is actually a "stanker"?
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    I'm figuring they fell out of fashion due in part to the increased use of SCBA's for interior access to the fire, as opposed to laddering a bunch of windows and hitting it from the outside.
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    It's an ATV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    So does that mean a tanker is actually a "stanker"?
    I tried to tell the chief we have a little stanker at station two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    I'm figuring they fell out of fashion due in part to the increased use of SCBA's for interior access to the fire, as opposed to laddering a bunch of windows and hitting it from the outside.
    And laddering a bunch of windows is not as important today? If anything the importance of laddering windows has increased due to SCBAs and interior fire attack!



    Sorry a pet peeve of mine!

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    Whoa there pony! I didn't pass judgement on the tactic of using lots of ladders, I'm just theorizing that it has fallen out of favor.
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    not out of favor here bro! ladders ladders ladders

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    So does that mean a tanker is actually a "stanker"?


    No, it would be an "anker"........
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    I thought an "anker" was what kept a boat from drifting. But then, I'm no seafarer.
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    Or a Kanker!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Or a Kanker!!
    There is medicine for that.

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    No, no, a kanker is one of those painful kold sore things!
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    Aaahhhhh.... My bad, carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    No, it would be an "anker"........
    MOST of 'em are,hehe T.C.

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