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    Default Thermal Imaging Camera Narative

    Anyone have a narrative for the AFG for a TIC? I'm looking for "buzz words" and hot items to touch on.

    I would love to check our the narratives, email to: awedmore@hotmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedic57 View Post
    Anyone have a narrative for the AFG for a TIC? I'm looking for "buzz words" and hot items to touch on.

    I would love to check our the narratives, email to: awedmore@hotmail.com

    Thanks!
    Firemedic57; Looks like youíre not getting any response from anyone. I have a TI narrative that was awarded a few years ago on a CEDAP grant. Donít know if that will help or not. It is a little deferent than the AFG and it has been a while since I looked at it but it may help. I will make myself a note to find it and PM it to you. It will be Tuesday before I can get that done. Have a good day.
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    We were awarded one 2nd round fr 2009. I will get it to you soon.

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    Default Would like to see a thermal imaging narrative as well

    If you could send me anything you have for Thermal Imaging .

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    If possible could I get a copy for reference as well.

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    I sent you ( all 3 of you) a copy of a AFG grant we recieved this year ( 2009) for a TIC. Hope it helps.

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    There is a new TIC standard NFPA 1801 2010ed. We just got some information on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limeforever View Post
    There is a new TIC standard NFPA 1801 2010ed. We just got some information on it.

    Care to share since some of us poor dept's can't afford to buy the copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtndew21 View Post
    Care to share since some of us poor dept's can't afford to buy the copy.
    You can view any NFPA standards on-line for free.

    Go to:

    http://www.nfpa.org/

    Click on "Sign In" in the upper left corner.

    Click on "Create an Account"

    Supply an email address and password.

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    Default Check your e-mail...

    Sent a winning narrative from this year. Awarded 2.5 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebugle View Post
    You can view any NFPA standards on-line for free.

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    I never knew that and will come in handy.

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    If you have a chance, could you forward a narrative my way? rcfd3587@aeroinc.net

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    If some winning departments would like to share, I'm game! Looking for narratives for TIC... Thanks in advance. Ben bwebster@nycap.rr.com

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    me too...if you have time to send your award winning narratives my way for some ideas...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limeforever View Post
    There is a new TIC standard NFPA 1801 2010ed. We just got some information on it.
    Glad you mentioned that. I had not heard that they adopted the proposal (in Dec 2009).

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    looking for help on narrative ....any help would be appreciated....please send to junior480@hotmail.com

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    Cool npfa 1801

    I might be missing something, but after a 20 minute review of 1801 it appears to me the standard defines the manufacture, testing and significant operational features need to be compliant.

    It doesn't say anywhere in 1801 that you need a TIC for every truck or team etc. What are you going to quote, that the unit you wish to purchase will comply with NFPA 1801 -2010? I would hope it did.

    If I'm missing something I'm the first to be set straight but if I'm right be careful what NFPA you quote and how your statements read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfdmichael View Post
    I might be missing something, but after a 20 minute review of 1801 it appears to me the standard defines the manufacture, testing and significant operational features need to be compliant.

    It doesn't say anywhere in 1801 that you need a TIC for every truck or team etc. What are you going to quote, that the unit you wish to purchase will comply with NFPA 1801 -2010? I would hope it did.

    If I'm missing something I'm the first to be set straight but if I'm right be careful what NFPA you quote and how your statements read.
    Without looking for God knows how long, I can't think of any NFPA standard off the top of my head that "requires" a TIC.

    However, you can reinforce with what the industry standard is. Anymore, it is essential that the primary entry team and the RIT/RIC/FAST team both have cameras. These are easily reinforced in a narrative, I would think (never done a TIC myself). I saw something recently that even cited that a TIC should be utilized during the initial 360 walk-around, as well as for the Incident Safety Officer to utilize throughout the incident.

    Of course, you always have the option of looking at excess funds. I recieved a quote on a TIC not too long ago for a good, name brand TIC for around $5,200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedic57 View Post
    Anyone have a narrative for the AFG for a TIC? I'm looking for "buzz words" and hot items to touch on.

    I would love to check our the narratives, email to: awedmore@hotmail.com

    Thanks!
    Sent this morning. Sorry for the delay. Good luck.

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    Sent a copy to all those that requested. Good luck.

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    I have used NFPA 1500 8.8.2.1 for justifying a TIC. It deals with a RIC/RIT with equipment.

    "A RIC shall be fully equipped with the appropriate protective clothing, protective equipment, SCBA, and any specialized rescue equipment that could be needed given the specifics of the operation under way".

    TIC = specialized equipment.

    There is another NFPA standard that may be applicable now.

    NFPA 1407: Standard for Fire Service Rapid Intervention Crews

    Haven't dug into it quite yet for specifics.

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    Good old Bugle. A walking repository of mostly useful knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJVaughn View Post
    Good old Bugle. A walking repository of mostly useful knowledge.
    Occasionally the light bulb does turn on.

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    whats the max. amount they allow for TIC's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTJAKE View Post
    whats the max. amount they allow for TIC's?
    $9,000 this year.

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