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    Curious how many depts. still actively use Bangor ladders.

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    Don't carry anything larger than a 35 foot extension. We only have a few buildings that are over two stories and we have 3 aerial ladders to help with that. And thank goodness we don't have Bangors!
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    Unfortunately for whatever reason, our latest two quints have 35' bangors instead of just plain 35' 3 section like we've used previously. Prior to that, we had no bangors remaining on the front line. Certainly a waste of manpower having a 35' bangor over a plain 35' IMHO as what we used to do with 3 now requires 4.

    40'+ bangors had been removed from our line long ago. Although one of my most memorable moments in my academy was doing the church raise with a 40' bangor and climbing up and over the top.
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    Our truck has a 45' bangor. We train on it, and everyone in the department is *somewhat* proficient with it. But, we just never have the manpower on the truck necessary to raise it.
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    We have one, we train on it...

    I really don't think you'd ever see it get used.
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    Unfortunately the truck companies that I served on were all quints. Unfortunate because of the fact that the damn pump and tank took up valuable ground ladder storage space. As a company officer, if I had a bangor ladder on board my unit, I would damn well make sure my boys were proficient in it's use- Deployment of a 40-50' bangor in conjunction with the main aerial could mean the difference between life and death at a major fire involving an occupied multiple dwelling.

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    We have some..Years ago had a couple 50's

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Unfortunately the truck companies that I served on were all quints. Unfortunate because of the fact that the damn pump and tank took up valuable ground ladder storage space. As a company officer, if I had a bangor ladder on board my unit, I would damn well make sure my boys were proficient in it's use- Deployment of a 40-50' bangor in conjunction with the main aerial could mean the difference between life and death at a major fire involving an occupied multiple dwelling.

    Look at pictures of fires in Boston.......Nuff said.
    Don't need 'em. But that "damn pump and tank" DIDN'T prevent us from putting a good selection of grounders on our TRUCK. Not to mention the aluminum farm on the Engines. Get over it,it can be able to protect itself AND STILL HAVE LADDERS! Whiteboard! T.C.

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    Have one. Train with it. Never used it on scene yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Unfortunately the truck companies that I served on were all quints. Unfortunate because of the fact that the damn pump and tank took up valuable ground ladder storage space. As a company officer, if I had a bangor ladder on board my unit, I would damn well make sure my boys were proficient in it's use- Deployment of a 40-50' bangor in conjunction with the main aerial could mean the difference between life and death at a major fire involving an occupied multiple dwelling.

    Look at pictures of fires in Boston.......Nuff said.
    That musta just been a bad design then. We have a quint, 2000 GPM Pump and 300 Gallon tank and manage to fit these ladders in:

    1 - 45' Bangor
    1 - 3 section 35'
    1 - 2 section 35'
    1 - 2 section 24'
    1 - 20 foot roof ladder
    1 - 16 foot roof ladder
    1 - 10 foot roof ladder
    1 - 10 foot folding attic ladder

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    Buff,See,there's ANOTHER! Personally if it's over 35',it's SUPPOSED to have LEVERS,hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Buff,See,there's ANOTHER! Personally if it's over 35',it's SUPPOSED to have LEVERS,hehe T.C.
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    No thanks! Don't have a second wheel holder. T.C.

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    Our department got rid of the only one we had left years ago. Sometimes its not a matter of how much space is wasted on your truck or that its a complete and total P.I.A. to deploy. As much as I hate them, if you have a multi-level taxpayer as found in many historic districts with overhead power lines, your arial device may not be able to operate affectively. Another thing to consider are townhomes that are 2 storys on the street side, but have a walk out basement making it 3 story around back. I'd like to see them as a thing of the past, but it all comes down to the needs of the first due. Just my thoughts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrmnk View Post
    Although one of my most memorable moments in my academy was doing the church raise with a 40' bangor and climbing up and over the top.
    Yep - I remember doing the same thing...really makes you put your faith in your fellow firefighters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFDFF View Post
    That musta just been a bad design then. We have a quint, 2000 GPM Pump and 300 Gallon tank and manage to fit these ladders in:

    1 - 45' Bangor
    1 - 3 section 35'
    1 - 2 section 35'
    1 - 2 section 24'
    1 - 20 foot roof ladder
    1 - 16 foot roof ladder
    1 - 10 foot roof ladder
    1 - 10 foot folding attic ladder
    I assume you have a tandem axle quint? I wouldn't think you could fit that on a single axle 75 footer. Or did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENG103 View Post
    I assume you have a tandem axle quint? I wouldn't think you could fit that on a single axle 75 footer. Or did you?
    You'd be right. Tandem axel, 105' stick with no platform.

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    Every Truck carries them in our department. They're just called 45's here and recruits learn to throw them and climb them on a 90 degree angle and a couple of classes have had their paycheck affixed to the top rung on payday to see if the recruit wanted it bad enough. They've been the only ladder able to reach civilians and Firemen over years in the rare occasion they've been deployed.

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    Every truck here carries a 50' and they get used fairly regularly.
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    We have bangors on our older reserve ladder companies. We dont actively use them.

    I think Chicago still uses them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fieldseng2 View Post
    We have bangors on our older reserve ladder companies. We dont actively use them.

    I think Chicago still uses them.
    Yes, Chicago uses them VERY frequently.

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    I trained on and used them in years past but haven't used one since about 1995.

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    a couple of classes have had their paycheck affixed to the top rung on payday
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    Considering that we were only paid about $6 per hour (1978), and it took me about five minutes to climb up, find the right paycheck and climb down... I thought I could make about 1/2 of my paycheck in a hour.

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    we have one on our truck ...........40' I think .........
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    A friend of mine claims he saw a guy in Seattle throw a 45' or a 50' by himself. He also mentioned that he had to take time off to let his back heal after. Not sure if it is true or not. I think it is plausible sine they had me throw a 35' by myself and I was only an cadet/explorer then.

    (it was tough but I did it. And there were two people standing next to me to make sure I did not kill anyone.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    Yep - I remember doing the same thing...really makes you put your faith in your fellow firefighters!
    16 years later and I'd do it again in a heartbeat with my current crew. The 4 years previous to that date I had no clue how to use an FD ground ladder as sad as that is.

    But still wish I didn't have the new ground ladder we have (bangor).
    Do love ground ladders, just think they need be tailor made to crew staffing for all rigs they are on.
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