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    Let's say you were gonna start a FAST/RIT team and the only equipment you had was your turnout gear, typical scba, and a engine tanker. What other equipment would you consider to be Needed, Wanted, and Luxury items? Looking for ideas for my next afg grant. We've got 10+ guys that have taken the class. Rural dept approx 100 calls a year. Mostly residential 2 story or less. Large building concerns would be a national guard armory, an old thermostat manufactering plant and a home depot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leedsfighting17 View Post
    Let's say you were gonna start a FAST/RIT team and the only equipment you had was your turnout gear, typical scba, and a engine tanker. What other equipment would you consider to be Needed, Wanted, and Luxury items? Looking for ideas for my next afg grant. We've got 10+ guys that have taken the class. Rural dept approx 100 calls a year. Mostly residential 2 story or less. Large building concerns would be a national guard armory, an old thermostat manufactering plant and a home depot.
    You would want a RIT KIT, TIC, Stokes basket, saws and hand tools. You might want to consider webbing, rope, beeners and such. Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a copy of a grant that we got a RIT KIT and TIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortsutphen View Post
    You would want a RIT KIT, TIC, Stokes basket, saws and hand tools. You might want to consider webbing, rope, beeners and such. Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a copy of a grant that we got a RIT KIT and TIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leedsfighting17 View Post
    Let's say you were gonna start a FAST/RIT team and the only equipment you had was your turnout gear, typical scba, and a engine tanker. What other equipment would you consider to be Needed, Wanted, and Luxury items? Looking for ideas for my next afg grant. We've got 10+ guys that have taken the class. Rural dept approx 100 calls a year. Mostly residential 2 story or less. Large building concerns would be a national guard armory, an old thermostat manufactering plant and a home depot.
    Check NFPA 1407: Standard for Training Fire Service Rapid Intervention Crews, 2010 Edition as well.

    Even though the equipment needed is determined by the AHJ, 7.14.1* (Appendix A) has a list of equipment that FF's should have training and be evaluated on. A good source as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebugle View Post
    Even though the equipment needed is determined by the AHJ, 7.14.1* (Appendix A) has a list of equipment that FF's should have training and be evaluated on. A good source as well.
    Where can I find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leedsfighting17 View Post
    Where can I find this?
    You can view NFPA 1407 for free.

    Go to:

    http://www.nfpa.org/

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    This is what we wrote for in our successful 2008 AFG.

    I did justification of 2 of everything pretty much since the importance is fire fighter safety but heres the list i got:

    Grant was for $44,600
    We spent $44,657

    2 Stretchers, Backboards, Splints, etc. - $500.00 each, $1,000.00 total, RIT RIT-ERB EXTRICATION/RESCUE BLANKET
    Budget 500 each 1000 total 0 excess

    2 Powered/Mechanical Extrication Tools/Equipment - $3,899.00 each, $7,798.00 total, FIRE HOOK 8-M28 THE EIGHT MAUL, FIRE HOOK HYDRA RAM-1, FIRE HOOK FIRE MAXX TOOLS, FIRE HOOK GRIFF HOOKS 36" W/CARRYING STRAP, FIRE HOOK GATOR BACK HOOK 32" W/D HANDLE, FIRE HOOK 18" NON CONDUCTIVE BOLT CUTTERS, FIRE HOOK BARRACUDA SAWS 28", FIRE HOOK FARRMAXX TOOLS, FIRE HOOK UNLIMITED PADLOCK BREAKER, FIRE HOOK SLEDGE HAMMERS 16" FIBERGLASS HANDLE, FIRE HOOK FIDNEY TOOL BELTS W/FIRE VULCAN LIGHTS, FIRE HOOK COLLAPSABLE RESCUE SHOVEL, FIRE HOOK DT-3 DYNAMIC TRIO: FORCE AXE; HOLLIGAN BAR; MARRYING STRAP, K-TOOLS COMPLETE, MORNING PRIDE 9001KV SPECIAL OPERATIONS RECOVERY DRAG: {SORD} W/CARRYING POUCH, FIRE HOOK DWHS-4' W/DRY WALL HOOK 4' W/D HANDLE; FIBERGLASS, FIRE HOOK RTK R-TOOL, FIRE HOOK CROW BAR 51" (1 PINCH POINT, 1 WEDGE POINT)
    Budget 5100 each 10200 total 2402 excess

    2 Stretchers, Backboards, Splints, etc. - $500.00 each, $1,000.00 total, R & B EP-506 SPIDER STRAPS, RESCUE TECH 620115 PLASTIC STRETCHERS
    Budget 500 each 1000 total 0 excess

    2 Ropes, Harnesses, Carabiners, Pulleys, etc. - $4,112.00 each, $8,224.00 total, GEMTOR #541 CLASS II HARNESS, R & B CYLINDER WRAP, RIT RK-ST200RSL, RIT GSK-CH100RSL, RIT GSK-CH200RSL, HP-100 HI-POINT ANCHOR SYSTEM
    Budget 4200 each 8400 total 176 excess

    2 RIT Packs - $2,895.00 each, $5,790.00 total, SCOTT RIT-PAK ASSEMBLY, (HM) CYL & VALVE CARBON 60, SCOTT EZFLO REGULATORS
    Budget 3000 each 6000 total 210 excess

    2 Power Saws - $1,925.00 each, $3,850.00 total, FIRE HOOK K12FD-PKG RESCUE SAWS, FIRE HOOK ULTIMATE DIAMOND BLADES, FIRE HOOK CONCRETE BLADES, FIRE HOOK CARBIDE BLADES
    Budget 2500 each 5000 total 1150 excess

    1 Thermal Imaging Devices - $10,000.00 each, $10,000.00 total, ELITE K-1000 THERMAL IMAGING CAMERA, CARRYING CASE, TWO(2) 3 HOUR BATTERIES, RETRACTABLE LANYARD, 110 VOLT CHARGING RACK, DIGITAL FRAME CAPTURE
    Budget was 10000 each 10000 total 0 excess

    5 Portable Radios - $544.00 each, $2,720.00 total, TK3180 UHF PORTABLES WITH RAPID CHARGER, UHF ANTENNA, SPEAKER MIKES
    Budget was 600 each 3000 total 280 excess



    From here down is excess funds in the amount of $4,275.00

    2 Power Saws - $25.00 each, $50.00 total, FIRE HOOK CONCRETE BLADES

    4 Power Saws - $150.00 each, $600.00 total, FIRE HOOK CARBIDE TIP BLADES

    2 Other Basic Equipment (explain) - Staging mats - $100.00 each, $200.00 total, STAGING MAT (OPTION 1) RED RIT

    1 Other Basic Equipment (explain) - Blade bags and scba staging mat - $264.00 each, $264.00 total, SCBA STAGING MAT, ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG SIZE SMALL PADDED BOTTOM FOR ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG, ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG SIZE MEDIUM COLOR BLACK PADDED BOTTOM FOR ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG, ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG SIZE LARGE COLOR BLACK PADDED BOTTOM FOR ALL HANDS SAW BLADE BAG, SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGE

    2 Other Basic Equipment (explain) - Rescue pack - $89.00 each, $178.00 total, RES-Q-PAK

    2 Backboards - $162.00 each, $324.00 total, RESCUE TECH #620211 YELLOW BACKBOARDS W/SPEED CLIP PINS

    6 Other EMS (explain) - Speed clips - $29.00 each, $174.00 total, RESCUE TECH #620231 SPEED CLIPS

    1 Other Basic Equipment (explain) - RIT bag - $155.00 each, $155.00 R & B 887RD RIT BAG

    1 Other Basic Equipment (explain) - Door wedges, helmet bands, cylinder wraps - $273.00 each, $273.00 total, 8 R & B SAC-DW-YL LARGE DOOR WEDGES: YELLOW, 10 STREAMLIGHT RUBBER HELMET BANDS, 40 R & B DOOR WEDGES/SPRINKLER STOPS: ORANGE, 2 R & B CL-CW-88-30 CYLINDER WRAP: RIT

    2 Ropes, Harnesses, Carabiners, Pulleys, etc. - $145.00 each, $290.00 total, GEMTOR #541 R CLASS II HARNESS

    2 Hand Tools - $125.00 each, $250.00 total, FIRE HOOK FIDNEY TOOL BELTS W/FIRE VULCAN FLASHLIGHT: ORANGE

    1 Monitoring and Sampling Devices - $1,130.00 each, $1,130.00 total, SCOTT STEALTH, SCOUT 4 GAS, 02, LEL, H2S & CO2 W/CASE, ALKALINE BATTERY, PUMP, PROBE, TUBING - CALIBRATION KIT

    3 Pagers - $129.00 each, $387.00 total, ADVISOR II PAGER

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    I think I already know the answer on this, but I figured I'd get the thoughts of others. What do you guys think the odds are on doing a regional RIT project?

    I've been working with some of our county departments on getting a RIT response built into the mutual/auto aid system. The mindset is getting several departments trained and equipped to do RIT, then they respond to neighboring departments as a RIT team. No one in our county has the manpower to do both, unfortunately.

    I figured on RIT bags, loose equipment, and training for everyone. But with the new restrictions on regionals, I don't know that it's doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22 View Post
    I think I already know the answer on this, but I figured I'd get the thoughts of others. What do you guys think the odds are on doing a regional RIT project?

    I've been working with some of our county departments on getting a RIT response built into the mutual/auto aid system. The mindset is getting several departments trained and equipped to do RIT, then they respond to neighboring departments as a RIT team. No one in our county has the manpower to do both, unfortunately.

    I figured on RIT bags, loose equipment, and training for everyone. But with the new restrictions on regionals, I don't know that it's doable.
    The one key component of a regional is that equipment is disbursed amongst the departments. If every department recieves the same identical equipment and training; it's a doable regional project. If it's a few departments supplying the whole county with RIT, then it would be considered a mutual aid deal and not a regional.

    We operate this way under our 10 alarm running cards for mutual aid. A mutual aid department is designated as a RIT company so that function can be filled, similar to you, no one can do it on their own except for the bigger cities.

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    Catch, depends a LOT on locations. If you are calling for a RIT/FAST/etc and it's taking time for guys to respond from around the County....it is pretty close to unrealistic. If you can get enough guys that are close enough...it can work.

    In my mind, the logistics of this are overwhelming. Are companies from outside the area responding on engines/trucks with only 1 or 2 guys and then planning on joining up with other engines/trucks with 1 or 2 guys at the scene? Where you going to put all those 1/2 man response vehicles. How much of a coverage hit are you causing these surrounding areas?

    Like I said, lots of questions on setting up a regional response.
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    So i'm thinking for this year I'll write for a TIC, RIT Pack, and an upgrade for our i believe 2002 model year 2002 complient air packs. I was thinking of putting a fire fighter safety, accountablity spin on it. We currently don't have a TIC or RIT pack. There isn't even a FAST team within 15-20 miles of us. Anyone got a narrative that I could borrow some ideas from?
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    Worked with two different departments this year that were requesting similar projects and both were funded. Then met with the regional training facility late last year to discuss doing this for some other departments and had some great ideas to add. I think the key here is to either show that you already have the training to use the equipment or ASK for the training to go with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not2L84U2 View Post
    Worked with two different departments this year that were requesting similar projects and both were funded. Then met with the regional training facility late last year to discuss doing this for some other departments and had some great ideas to add. I think the key here is to either show that you already have the training to use the equipment or ASK for the training to go with it!
    I'd say 1/4 off my department has gone thru the FAST training with even more who have completed the FF survival course which is the prereq for FAST. my county offers FAST classes 1-2 times a year so training is more a matter of them having the time to take it than it is getting the class.

    do you have copies of their narratives? i'd love to look them over for ideas. what would you add to them this year?

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