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    One of my BIGGEST winter season pet-peeves. Can you guess what it might be?
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    The photo was taken from a street-webcam of the intersection of Highway 1 (northbound) and Shawnigan Lake Rd, Malahat, BC at 0640 12 March. A freak snow fall hit this morning, starting around 5am, and caused the typical havoc on the road, because of icing conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    One of my BIGGEST winter season pet-peeves. Can you guess what it might be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    One of my BIGGEST winter season pet-peeves. Can you guess what it might be?
    Getting hit with a yellow snowball?

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    Having to wear two sweaters wrapped around my neck?
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    No lights on?

    and aside from the idiots who just 'have to' go out in the stuff.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    No lights on?

    and aside from the idiots who just 'have to' go out in the stuff.....
    Yea, funny how most employers require you to show regardless of the weather.

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    Mine: Knotheads that don't take the time brush the snow from their windows

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvfd27 View Post
    Mine: Knotheads that don't take the time brush the snow from their windows
    DITTO That.

    I also include the chuckleheads that pull out in front of you.
    And the numbskull that drives 20mph in the snow. If you can't go faster than 20 then stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    DITTO That.

    I also include the chuckleheads that pull out in front of you.
    And the numbskull that drives 20mph in the snow. If you can't go faster than 20 then stay home.
    Isn't that the top speed of the $#!tbox you drive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Isn't that the top speed of the $#!tbox you drive?
    There are a lot of horse and buggies around me......although - 1 hp/4-hoofed drive is better than 4 wheel!

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    How about the folks that hear the sales pitch about "all wheel drive gives the best traction in all weather conditions" but don't realize that they STILL have to allow more room in which to stop?
    I've helped pull quite a few out of snowbanks because they didn't catch that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Isn't that the top speed of the $#!tbox you drive?
    Nope, I don't own a TOYOTA, or any ohter foreign piece of junk. I but American and Support my fellow Americans. Although these days the lines are pretty blurry. If all Americans bought GM, Chrysler, Or Ford Detroit wouldn't be seeing 20% unemployment. And just think about all of the out of work fire fighters in that once thriving city that don't have jobs because some knucklehead bought Jap Junk instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    There are a lot of horse and buggies around me......although - 1 hp/4-hoofed drive is better than 4 wheel!
    HA!!!! Not compared to my John Deere

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    How about the folks that hear the sales pitch about "all wheel drive gives the best traction in all weather conditions" but don't realize that they STILL have to allow more room in which to stop?
    I've helped pull quite a few out of snowbanks because they didn't catch that part.
    Yep I love that one!!! Especially when I drive by them laughing because they 'had to' pass me on a snowy road.......as I putt-putt along and get where I am going safely.

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    You will see them on the NYS Thruway all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvfd27 View Post
    Mine: Knotheads that don't take the time brush the snow from their windows
    DING DING. Ditto here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Nope, I don't own a TOYOTA, or any ohter foreign piece of junk. I but American and Support my fellow Americans. Although these days the lines are pretty blurry. If all Americans bought GM, Chrysler, Or Ford Detroit wouldn't be seeing 20% unemployment. And just think about all of the out of work fire fighters in that once thriving city that don't have jobs because some knucklehead bought Jap Junk instead.
    Hey Doppie. Last time I checked most of the metal and nearly ALL engine parts had "Made In Japan" stamped on them. Example: early 80's Ford Ranger, powered by Mazda. Go figure eh? Whoda thunk it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    Hey Doppie. Last time I checked most of the metal and nearly ALL engine parts had "Made In Japan" stamped on them. Example: early 80's Ford Ranger, powered by Mazda. Go figure eh? Whoda thunk it?
    Also, GM motors, Equinox and now other vehicles, made by Chery in China, yes Chery not Chevy. "The car's sticker notes that 55 percent of its parts are from the United States and Canada, 20 percent from Japan, 15 percent from China, and the rest from elsewhere."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Nope, I don't own a TOYOTA, or any ohter foreign piece of junk. I but American and Support my fellow Americans. Although these days the lines are pretty blurry. If all Americans bought GM, Chrysler, Or Ford Detroit wouldn't be seeing 20% unemployment. And just think about all of the out of work fire fighters in that once thriving city that don't have jobs because some knucklehead bought Jap Junk instead.
    I have my Toyota 4Runner and would only trade in for a new 5th Generation Trail Edition.

    Made in Japan. I would buy GM if it weren't for their crappy product and the fact that the United States Government now owns most of the company. Won't buy a Chrysler either. Ford is OK now as they have come a very long way.

    But considering where a huge portion of these "American" cars are made what does "Buy American" mean. Is my Subaru made in Indiana by US workers any less "American" than a rebadged Daihatsu with a Chevy logo on it that was made in Korea?

    Or an F-150 made in Canada more "American" than a Toyota Tundra made in Texas? Or a Jeep made in Mexico more "American" than a another car made in St. Louis?

    Your classification of "American" made vehicles is shot.

    If Detroit made vehicles that people wanted to buy, they would not be in the predicament they are in. It is their own bed, and they made it - so they can sleep in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    Hey Doppie. Last time I checked most of the metal and nearly ALL engine parts had "Made In Japan" stamped on them. Example: early 80's Ford Ranger, powered by Mazda. Go figure eh? Whoda thunk it?
    Yes I know, we let that slip away. One by one part by part we kept buying the cheaper Japanese parts because Americans won't support the higher wages they demand.

    How different the landscape would have been if Americans had rejected those early attempts at cheaper parts made by people with much lower wages. Americans all want to make $25 an hour, but their buying habits don't support those wages. Rather hypocritical don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie View Post
    I have my Toyota 4Runner and would only trade in for a new 5th Generation Trail Edition.

    Made in Japan. I would buy GM if it weren't for their crappy product and the fact that the United States Government now owns most of the company. Won't buy a Chrysler either. Ford is OK now as they have come a very long way.

    But considering where a huge portion of these "American" cars are made what does "Buy American" mean. Is my Subaru made in Indiana by US workers any less "American" than a rebadged Daihatsu with a Chevy logo on it that was made in Korea?

    Or an F-150 made in Canada more "American" than a Toyota Tundra made in Texas? Or a Jeep made in Mexico more "American" than a another car made in St. Louis?

    Your classification of "American" made vehicles is shot.

    If Detroit made vehicles that people wanted to buy, they would not be in the predicament they are in. It is their own bed, and they made it - so they can sleep in it.
    Funny thing. I was about to go Prius shopping. My commute is 50 miles one way. I put the brakes on that notion real quick. I was struggling with the cost of the batteries and the fuel savings and if it is really worth it. The good news is I would have a get out of jail free card for a speeding ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Nope, I don't own a TOYOTA, or any ohter foreign piece of junk. I but American and Support my fellow Americans. Although these days the lines are pretty blurry. If all Americans bought GM, Chrysler, Or Ford Detroit wouldn't be seeing 20% unemployment. And just think about all of the out of work fire fighters in that once thriving city that don't have jobs because some knucklehead bought Jap Junk instead.
    Please support our local workers - buy Suburu and Toyota. Toyota has a large plant in Southern Indiana and Suburu has a large plant in Northern Indiana (one or two lines at Suburu is Toyota as well). These are *new* plants built in the last 20 years as compared to some of the GM plants that are pushing 60 and closing.

    You buy 'US' - you send out jobs to Mexico, South America, Asia etc.

    Geez...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Yes I know, we let that slip away. One by one part by part we kept buying the cheaper Japanese parts because Americans won't support the higher wages they demand.

    How different the landscape would have been if Americans had rejected those early attempts at cheaper parts made by people with much lower wages. Americans all want to make $25 an hour, but their buying habits don't support those wages. Rather hypocritical don't you think?
    Well, the only problem there is that there is no possible way an American worker could survive on the wages that most of the foreign factories pay their workers. You are correct though saying that UAW wages were out of control. THere was a time when autoworkers needed higher wages because the work was difficult and very demanding. I know several autoworkers, most by acquaintance, and they tell me even the work they do is mostly automated or mechanically assisted anymore. And all that I know make far more than $25 an hour.

    Also there is no way an American company can produce the vehicles for the same costs given all of the regulations that they are required to follow that foreign manufacturers aren't required to follow, i.e. safety, environmental, HR, accounting, unions, on and on.

    Tax and tariff breaks to the overseas manufacturers is where the problem is. If they want to generate government revenue lets even the playing field a little with American companies and foreign companies by removing these tariff breaks to even out the difference in wages and regulation cost differences instead of raising taxes on the middle class.

    Ford recognized this problem several years back. They were criticized for the early retirements and buyouts they did to reduce their labor costs. Looks like it paid off though. They also closed down old, outdated plants for newer streamline smaller plants.

    Toyota has two very large plants here, one in my area, one 2 hours away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Funny thing. I was about to go Prius shopping. My commute is 50 miles one way. I put the brakes on that notion real quick. I was struggling with the cost of the batteries and the fuel savings and if it is really worth it. The good news is I would have a get out of jail free card for a speeding ticket.
    I think the cops are on to that one already.There weren't any skid marks under that guy's car from it trying to keep running away after the CHP got it stopped.

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