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    Default Wow...

    I was doing a cursory search and stumbled across this thread. You should do yourself a favor and revisit some of your posts in their entirety. You may think that your opinions are welcomed and necessary but I can assure that they are not; you are a racist and a bigot. I hope you're aware that the racial composition of the city of Cleveland is circa 53% black and 40% white...if you think the CFD resembles that makeup you are sorely mistaken and if you think that they should not put parameters in place to attempt to rectify that you are also sorely mistaken. If you have prepared yourself well enough to be a strong and viable candidate then you should quit complaining about affirmative action but I suspect you intend to dangle from your laurels and continue to make excuses. If I were a citizen of Cleveland I would not want your presence in my home on any kind of call and I imagine the majority of citizens would feel that way. As a firefighter, I would not want your presence in my firehouse or on any of my rigs...or anywhere within approx. 500ft of me at any point in time. People like you don't deserve the badge...grow up and be a better human being.


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    Cleveland is also 52.6% female.... Move over boys its ladies night on CFD.

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    thats funny... you are sexist to believe that they should hire the top scoring candidates to fill the positions over primarily women though, chauvinist... just accept that they are going to put on classes of all women and move on

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    I believe it was Abe Lincoln that said " I will study hard and then my day will come". If you truly embraced that theory, you need not look at numbers of 1 in 3, quota's, city demographics or other latent excuses. Not trying to be harsh, actually just the opposite. Prepare yourself well and your day will come albeit perhaps not with Cleveland Fire.... Take as many tests as you can to get exposure to taking these types of tests and you will improve. Don't ever, for a second, forget to work hard at the medical aspect of Firefighting. The national trends to the fire service are widely known to include Paramedical studies, so get busy in the testing off season to build your resume in those disciplines as well.

    Testing is done today! Good luck to all of the candidates.

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    Mikeys I dont know who you think you are. I'm racist? My problem isn't with the people taking the test. It's how civil service opperates. You say I don't deserve a badge or anything like that? Who made you king? I have a silver start and a purple heart. Mikeys, did you serve our country in the armed services? If not then shut up.

    Cub- Who is talking bad about females in the fire service. I hope that wasnt directed at me.

    Oh and mikeys, I just want everybody on the same playing grounds. So chill out. We Clevelanders know thats not the case in certain aspects. Should be the top candidate for the slot regardless of race, religion, or sex.
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    Default I knew I shouldnt have checked back...

    Just to be clear I am not going to go back and forth on this issue with you and this will be the last response you will receive...feel free to continue to post, I'm sure that you will. You are a racist. Claiming your disgruntled nature stems from any CSC is null and void when you comment that you should get hired over "a minority off the streets with no experience and can't speak proper English". If you think that they give a special idiot's reading comp. tests to the Hispanic members of the community you're way off base...they take the same test you do. If you really cared about the best candidate getting the slot, I'd love to see you relinquish your veteran's preference points to level the playing field with which you're so concerned. Before you get all up in arms about it, I'm not saying you should have to, I'm saying if that was really the crux of your concern then that is what you would do. How about this, go get your EMT-P like all the rest of the candidates who want to stand head and shoulders above the rest and for the last time, quit complaining and quit making excuses.

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    Armyboy - No, I was just having fun with RustBeltFire's comment at yours and mick's expense. I could care less how they handle hiring at this point. It won't make a lick of difference what you, I, or any other person thinks. They are going to huddle in a room and pick who they want for whatever reasons they want, then justify it in the end using the rules. Ask me how I know... better yet, don't

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    Oh okay.. I dont know what this mickeys problem is He/She seems like the racist.

    Why would I give up my veterand points.. I EARNED them. I've been where the devil himself wont go. Mickeys would never make it in my unit.
    @ mickeys- I have my 240 card and my emt-b. working on my P. I'm not looking for a hand out. I dont know what you do or who you work for, but i promise I worked harder one year in Iraq then you've worked in five years. So go pound sand.

    Some people have zero respect for Veterans.. It's more then likely because they would never make it in the military.

    One more thing. I never said I should be hired over sombody less qualified. I said they should not get special preference. Don't put words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepup View Post
    I believe it was Abe Lincoln that said " I will study hard and then my day will come". If you truly embraced that theory, you need not look at numbers of 1 in 3, quota's, city demographics or other latent excuses. Not trying to be harsh, actually just the opposite. Prepare yourself well and your day will come albeit perhaps not with Cleveland Fire.... Take as many tests as you can to get exposure to taking these types of tests and you will improve. Don't ever, for a second, forget to work hard at the medical aspect of Firefighting. The national trends to the fire service are widely known to include Paramedical studies, so get busy in the testing off season to build your resume in those disciplines as well.

    Testing is done today! Good luck to all of the candidates.
    Now that the PAT is complete, any idea on when Cleveland will release eligibility list? Better yet, when does the city anticipate bringing in its first class for Academy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick80 View Post
    Now that the PAT is complete, any idea on when Cleveland will release eligibility list? Better yet, when does the city anticipate bringing in its first class for Academy?
    A good guess would be end of Jan for our rankings. Not a clue to your second question. The PAT is completed for the first time takers, but I thought I heard they are still doing the people that had to be retake there test due to blood pressure and pulse through the 9th..

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    Default Angry People...

    There is still the medical exams and psych test's left to do. So it still might be a while. I bet anyone on the forum that Cleveland doesn't even know what they are going to do. It's starts off as nothing, nothing, and then BOOM, we get information about what is next. On another note to some others that have posted. You can work hard and and get anything you want, if you poor your blood sweat and tears into it. However, everything is motviated by some political or racial push. This is how the world is and always will be as long as imperfect people are running the show. The world and its desires are only motivated by one thing and by whom......guess?
    Anyway, back to the matter at hand, Firefighting. I can inform all of you on here if I know that I can't get on with a department I will try to help someone else who desperately wants it and is trying harder than myself. Yes I do tell other people where other tests are going to be and I did tell a couple of guys about the ability test. I will try to help people out, even though this is really competitive. In the end its about teamwork and honesty with your fellow brothers. Sure it may be about "me" and getting to where "I" can go. But in the end, you need to carry over teamwork, commitment, honesty, endurance etc. These are the fundamentals to firefighting. Sure things are discourging, but in the end, nothing will change and you cannot change it. These are the moments in life that are only temporary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Boy View Post
    One more thing. I never said I should be hired over sombody less qualified. I said they should not get special preference. Don't put words in my mouth.
    Ok, then I will say it... You SHOULD be hired over somebody less qualified.

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    @ honestman and cub. You aswell as a lot of us know how things work. It's sad but true.. We have to do better then our best and hope for a crap shoot.

    I believe honestman is right about them not knowing whats going on til it happens. I dont get how they are scoring the PAT. I thought it was pass/fail. However now you can still pass, but may not recieve a point for the event if not completed in the initial time. soo is each point worth 7% points?

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    Army boy, I am gathering that you know some CFD members. I only know one and dont talk to him much. ould be wrong but thats what I gather. So any ideas when the earliest they are starting a class? I heard April from the guy I know. This question might have already been asked. Also with the talk of merging EMS does having your NREMT-P going to help us? Ok, one more. How do they plan on merging. Doing like FDNY and making EMS a division of the FD, or like where they do it where I am at, where everyone is cross trained and rides to medic unit. Thanks. And everyone calm down, cant we all get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergijm View Post
    Army boy, I am gathering that you know some CFD members. I only know one and dont talk to him much. ould be wrong but thats what I gather. So any ideas when the earliest they are starting a class? I heard April from the guy I know. This question might have already been asked. Also with the talk of merging EMS does having your NREMT-P going to help us? Ok, one more. How do they plan on merging. Doing like FDNY and making EMS a division of the FD, or like where they do it where I am at, where everyone is cross trained and rides to medic unit. Thanks. And everyone calm down, cant we all get along.
    I know a couple guys, but I have not heard any chatter on an academy. It will be a little longer then a lot of us would hope. I share everything I know and don't keep anything to my self.. In the end its more about the brother/sister hood.
    I've asked about the EMS merger and have come up empty.

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    Default Cleveland Fire cilp

    Found this youtube clip of Cleveland Fire in action. Just a little motivation for ya. Enjoy...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWMpwDR1B4
    Last edited by maverick80; 12-04-2010 at 04:57 PM.

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    Cool vid. Hey, does anyone know if the Headen Decree is still in effect for fire department hiring in Cleveland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick80 View Post

    In order to receive residency credit, applicants must present the originals or legible copies of 4 different proofs of residency from one year ago* and 4 different proofs of residency that are current** (a total of 8 documents) for verification.

    I understand this to mean that as long as you could prove residency at the time of filing the application, you will be awarded the residency points. I don't think they can revoke your residency points if you moved to a suburb after the fact. Any comments or helpful information?
    Hmm...interesting point. So you're saying you can claim Cleveland residency credit even if you moved out of the city before being hired? Mav, your theory sorta makes sense , but does anyone have a different thought or opinion on this?
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    I don't think they can take away the points before you get hired. I work for the city and also live in the city after growing up in the suburbs. Its really not bad. I live downtown and I enjoy it a million times better than Parma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddrat1 View Post
    I don't think they can take away the points before you get hired. I work for the city and also live in the city after growing up in the suburbs. Its really not bad. I live downtown and I enjoy it a million times better than Parma.
    Haha- Parma.

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