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    Default AFG not authorized for FY 2010 ?

    How is it possible that we have AFG 2010 scheduled when the Senate has not even voted on HR 3791 the Fire Grants Reauthorization Act of 2009,which is the bill to reauthorized AFG, SAFER & FP&S from FY2010-2014??

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    They are going to pull the rug out from up under us lol jk that is a good point though wish I had an answer for you brother maybe one of the grant gods will answer that dang good question...

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    That's 2011 thru 2014, must be a misprint. 2010 was authorized last year, that's where the rangle over the $380mil was when they upped SAFER to $420mil and Pascrell and Company added the other $10mil to it in a last minute compromise or something like that.

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    Anyone notice the amendment added putting river rescue organizations as eligible under the rescue catagorey?
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    where can i find this amendment?

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    4. H.AMDT.514 to H.R.3791 Amendment makes river rescue organizations eligible for funding under the definition of a rescue organization.
    Sponsor: Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] (introduced 11/18/2009) Cosponsors (None)
    Latest Major Action: 11/18/2009 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Holden amendment (A004) Agreed to by voice vote.


    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...emp/~bdaONHE:1[1-5](Amendments_For_H.R.3791)&./temp/~bdLy5y
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    thanks...that info definately changes my 2010 thinking as we are a prime water rescue fire department, with little equipment....

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    Whoah guy, that amendment is to the legislation that is currently under consideration in the Senate for the 2011-2014 AFG. It won't apply in 2010 besides, my clients have been awarded for swift water rescue on previous AFG. What are you having problems with? Give me a shout offline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelman View Post
    thanks...that info definately changes my 2010 thinking as we are a prime water rescue fire department, with little equipment....
    There is a new NFPA standard that will be applicable to PPE.

    NFPA 1952: Standard on Surface Water Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment, 2010 Edition

    FYI: I have contacted various manufacturers on NFPA compliance for dry suits (was looking at PPE for FD boat rescue ops). The general consensus, it's not going to happen any time soon, if at all in some cases. It appears that it may not be economically feasible to achieve NFPA compliance.

    I have decided to wait until 2011 AFG to see how things pan out or find a different solution.

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    Bugle, you are the ultimate NFPA standards consultant. We were thinking about getting a subscription to the NFPA site, but with you, it would save me 7-800 bucks per year.

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    misunderstanding on my part, sorry.....i havent applied in previous years for water rescue equipment but will definately look at it harder this year....thanks again kurt, i will contact you next week, im head to phoenix - beer, golf and brewers!

    know where i can get a grant for a rescue/fire boat?

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    Hit Neoiwa up on the FEPP program, at one time I saw several Zodiacs on the list. I would like to have one of them, but I don't know how good they are to fish out of. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelman View Post
    misunderstanding on my part, sorry.....i havent applied in previous years for water rescue equipment but will definately look at it harder this year....thanks again kurt, i will contact you next week, im head to phoenix - beer, golf and brewers!

    know where i can get a grant for a rescue/fire boat?
    Not a grant but if you have $150 try this:

    25" fiberglass Boston Whaler with twin 150hp units, trailer, opening bid as of today at 12:00AM- $150 - auction closes 3/18 - probably go for less than $2500

    http://www.govliquidation.com/auctio...tionId=3094335

    Have to call me after March 30, leaving Thursday for Honolulu and points South for 10 days. Margaritaville, here I come; Bring it on, bring it on!!!! Yeah I know; life's rough ain't it?
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    10-4.....say hi to my family in the homeland, they live in ewa (east of honolulu)....aloha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelman View Post
    10-4.....say hi to my family in the homeland, they live in ewa (east of honolulu)....aloha!
    Willdo, got to go to Marshall Islands/GUAM/CNMI to teach then back to Honolulu for 4 days R&R.
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    R&R= Resupply and Recover??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limeforever View Post
    R&R= Resupply and Recover??
    Rest & Recreation, I expect to come back with AFG in full swing!
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    Maui = Rest and recouperate, Honolulu = tourist and run here run there, but the view of Diamond head and Wai Ka ki beach from my balcony was very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limeforever View Post
    Maui = Rest and recouperate, Honolulu = tourist and run here run there, but the view of Diamond head and Wai Ka ki beach from my balcony was very nice.
    I'll send pictures so all you snowbirds can ooh and ahh! Payback works both ways, been coming out in these darn bizzards for everyone for going on 6 years now without a break.LOL!
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    They do get some snow in the high elevations of the mountians. Kurt will just make sure that they stay covered longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC79er View Post
    That's 2011 thru 2014, must be a misprint. 2010 was authorized last year, that's where the rangle over the $380mil was when they upped SAFER to $420mil and Pascrell and Company added the other $10mil to it in a last minute compromise or something like that.
    The $380mil/$420mil was an appropriation not the authorization for the program.

    Looking up Public Law "P.L. 108-375"

    "There are authorized to be appropriated for the purposes
    of this section $900,000,000 for fiscal year 2005,
    $950,000,000 for fiscal year 2006, and $1,000,000,000 for each
    of the fiscal years 2007 through 2009.

    I cannot find anything to say it has been authorized for 2010.

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    Was voted in somewhere since DHS is spending the administration money from it doing the workshops. In the federal register somewhere, and since those on that side all say it's been passed and ready to go have to figure not finding it on the internet isn't anything special. Done searches for stuff before related to congressional doings and couldn't find stuff. Best was when I had a page open to what I wanted and the search engine for the site I was on couldn't find it. All depends on the nerd at the wheel writing the search algorithms...

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    CFDA 97.044

    Financial Information (120)
    Account Identification (121):
    70-0561-0-1-999.
    Obligations (122):
    (Project Grants) FY 08 $560,000,000; FY 09 est $565,000,000; FY 10 est $300,000,000

    If the money was not already there that figure on FY10 would be "0"
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