1. #1
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default 2010 NYS DEC grant

    http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/2510.html

    Anyone ever use this? I need to replace some 5" LDH & Low Band Minitor 5 pagers. Think either one qualifies? If you have used it and were successful what did you get?

  2. #2
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Angola, NY, USA
    Posts
    41

    Default

    This grant is generally for rural/wildland equipment. Not sure if either of those items would qualify. I know in the past our department has gotten Indian Tanks and hose for wild land/brush fire use.

  3. #3
    Forum Member
    medic190's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Stuyvesant Falls, NY
    Posts
    329

    Default

    We've gotten the water backpacks, indian tanks (ugh, before the backpacks!) wildland hand tools (rakes, brooms, swatters, etc.)portable radios and a 'trash pump' that out-pumps our portable fire pump (and half the cost!)

    A neighboring FD has gotten TOG, nozzles & attack hose, portable & mobile radios...

    LDH and pagers might be a bit of a stretch... Remember, the total project allowed isn't really that high (they say to figure on a project normally not much more than $3,000.00 or so) if memory serves, around 4 - 5K is the top (so since it's 50% matching: 2 - 2500.00...)

    But, if that is your highest priority items, then what do you have to loose? We're toying between a couple more portable radios or replacing the rest of the indian tanks with the backpacks (saves a lot of space!)

  4. #4
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default

    I figured it would be a strech but what can it hurt to try? Those are our highest priority right now. I'd ask for one or the other and keep total cost at $3000. Which do you think would score higher? As far as "wildland equipment" goes I think we are ok with what we got.

  5. #5
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    45

    Default

    Contact your local forest ranger and he will be able to tell you what is available. I know some departments in our area have used it to purchase portable radios. As far as the award limit, it is a 50/50 match with a maximum award portion of $1,000 unless they changed it this year. You can always spend more but you will only get $1,000 from the state.

  6. #6
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default

    I just wanted to let everyone know that I contacted Lynne korona the program specialist in reguards to my question about 5" LDH and Pager eligibility. Her response was:

    "There are no restrictions on the diameter or type of hose and communications equipment is eligible, including pagers."

    I thought they were gonna be long shots on the eligibility list but I guess it's a go!

  7. #7
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Cypress, TX
    Posts
    1,718

    Default

    Doesn't mean they're not long shots, eligible and competitive are 2 different animals.

  8. #8
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Rural Iowa
    Posts
    3,106

    Default

    Only major eligibilty item in Iowa is you only get grant every other year. Max grant $3500. Handhelds/pagers are very very common. Max hose size is 1-3/4".
    Last edited by neiowa; 04-05-2010 at 03:32 PM.

  9. #9
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BC79er View Post
    Doesn't mean they're not long shots, eligible and competitive are 2 different animals.
    True. I probably should have rephrased that. I didn't think they were going to be eligible but it looks like they are. Even though they may not be competitive it's the best grant/item match I have right now as an attempt to get 5" or pagers. I'm saving AFG for the "no brainer" TIC.

  10. #10
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    way upstate NY
    Posts
    107

    Default

    NYS grants are $2000 max, includes $1000 match. We purchased 2-way programmable radios last year. No questions asked. $2000 might get you what, 4 pagers?

  11. #11
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Cypress, TX
    Posts
    1,718

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Leedsfighting17 View Post
    True. I probably should have rephrased that. I didn't think they were going to be eligible but it looks like they are. Even though they may not be competitive it's the best grant/item match I have right now as an attempt to get 5" or pagers. I'm saving AFG for the "no brainer" TIC.
    That makes more sense. TIC and pagers isn't an uncommon AFG either in case that one doesn't work.

  12. #12
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Troyboy67 View Post
    NYS grants are $2000 max, includes $1000 match. We purchased 2-way programmable radios last year. No questions asked. $2000 might get you what, 4 pagers?
    lol 5!!! got a price qoute from our motorola dealer $399 each.

  13. #13
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    45

    Default

    These grants are competitive as the AFG grants are. You accrue points based upon population under 10,000, native american tribal lands, and whether you were awarded one in the prvious year. When we got ours last year I spoke with the forest ranger and he didn't seem to care what we purchased and encouraged us to apply again.

  14. #14
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Claverack, NY USA
    Posts
    19

    Default Blitzfire portable monitor purchased

    We bought a blitzfire portable monitor 2 years ago with NYSDEC grant. Everyone above is correct re: $1000 max award. Application is very straightforward and uncomplicated compared to AFG. Pretty easy actually! I believe this year NYS EnCon has $450,000 to grant so that is 450 departments at $1000 per grant. If you have not been funded in previous 5 years you get more points on application. Towns with population less than 10,000 also score higher. After being funded the local Forest Ranger came and verified equipment purchase and that closed out grant. Good luck.

  15. #15
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY, USA
    Posts
    105

    Default

    In my experience these grants are not nearly as competitive as AFG grants. NY will only fund you every other year, but you can apply every year. We have been funded every other year for the last 10 years regardless of what we have asked for. According to our program contact they are more worried about spreading the money around and getting it to new and different areas than what they are funding.

  16. #16
    Forum Member
    Doorbreaker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Near Cooperstown N.Y.
    Posts
    111

    Default

    We get the NY award every other year. But we now apply every year as the points for tha denied application count the next year. This year we got a 2000 gallon portable pond, some 3" suction hose and a new float strainer for the 3". In the past we have picked up fire rakes, fire line hoes, Indian tanks, and a couple "trash pumps" as well.

    5" is not going to fall under the "small hose category"

    N.Y. is a 1000 dollar grant with a 1000 dollar match from your department.

  17. #17
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Mayville, New York
    Posts
    103

    Default

    Not quite sure how, but i got this grant two years in a row ( 08 and 09). I am sending mine in this year as well. It seems they even put more into this progrm this year.

  18. #18
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    45

    Default

    I found our award letter in my mailbox today and it was postmarked on the 30th. Second year in a row for us.
    Last edited by jmurphy139; 07-03-2010 at 03:37 PM.

  19. #19
    MembersZone Subscriber
    ktb9780's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Auburndale, FL
    Posts
    6,080

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphy139 View Post
    I found our award letter in my mailbox today and it was postmarked on the 30th. Second year in a row for us.
    Way to go Joe, keep it up!
    Kurt Bradley
    Public Safety Grants Consultant

    "Never Trade Skill for Luck"

  20. #20
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    45

    Default

    Thanks Kurt, we ordered our Polaris Ranger a few weeks ago with our member item funding from the state. The DEC grant is going towards the insert. Any word on the SAFER R&R grants?????

  21. #21
    MembersZone Subscriber
    ktb9780's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Auburndale, FL
    Posts
    6,080

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphy139 View Post
    Thanks Kurt, we ordered our Polaris Ranger a few weeks ago with our member item funding from the state. The DEC grant is going towards the insert. Any word on the SAFER R&R grants?????
    Not a peep so far but they will come, stay tuned!
    Kurt Bradley
    Public Safety Grants Consultant

    "Never Trade Skill for Luck"

  22. #22
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Northern NY
    Posts
    189

    Wink Congrats!

    Hey, nice work on the member item grant. Just a word of caution, I received a nice letter from my assembly member in March 2009, and then it took over one year to get our refund. The statewide list came out in the summer, the packets from the state came at the end of the year, and the refund checks a few month's after we got the packet completed correctly. Hopefully you have the cash flow to hold out until you get your refund. Just remember, it may take a year to get your money back.

    We also received our DEC grant for a second year in a row. This is the first time in over ten years that we recieved it two years in a row. They raised the fund from $350,000 to $435,000 this year, so apparently there are about 435 dept's applying.

  23. #23
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    45

    Default

    We've gotten the run around in the past. We all know how New York politics work, or should I say don't work, so we waited until the packet was in hand to place the order. Fortunately, we have the cash flow to cover it until the reimbursement comes.

    The Ranger came in this morning and I'll be picking it up Monday afternoon.

  24. #24
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Cairo, NY
    Posts
    73

    Default

    Got our award letter today. Idk how long it sat in the mailbox but none the less it's here. I submitted for 5 minitor 5's with standard bases and voice recorder. $399 each.

  25. #25
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    20 minutes North of Cooperstown, NY/ Baseball Hall of Fame
    Posts
    140

    Default Happy Dance!!

    Just got our letter today. New wildland PPE for us.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Cleveland Fire Dept., Fire exam, July 31st, 2010
    By dmfireschool in forum Hiring & Employment Discussion
    Replies: 709
    Last Post: 08-20-2013, 10:16 PM
  2. Your Ideal Fleet
    By viperfire1 in forum Apparatus Innovation
    Replies: 103
    Last Post: 01-16-2011, 09:37 PM
  3. 2010 afg
    By MoneyMan29 in forum Federal FIRE ACT Grants & Funding
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 02-01-2010, 08:23 AM
  4. Cheshire SAFER grant...this will be interesting...
    By Dalmatian190 in forum Federal FIRE ACT Grants & Funding
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 04-13-2007, 12:49 PM
  5. World Of Fire Report: 03-17-05
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-20-2005, 11:29 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register