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    Default Sidewinder SCBA mask concept

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    The Sidewinder self-contained breathing apparatus, or SCBA, is a mask designed for firefighters to help them breathe when in rooms filled with smoke. It connects to a shoulder-mounted air tank with a retractable air tube, and the mask itself features a voice amplifier, flashlight and heads-up display for showing information about the situation to the user.


    Ok, so they call it a "Firefigher's Helmet".. and it looks pretty plasticy..

    I did like the feature of the pack that allows the SCBA bottle to rotate to a low-profile without unslinging the pack... not a bad idea..
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    looks gimmicky.

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    Just another useless gadget

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Just another useless gadget
    Like the Halligan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFDFF View Post
    Like the Halligan?
    BA-ZING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFDFF View Post
    Like the Halligan?
    Nope The FIT-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Nope The FIT-5
    Flip flopping again, eh?

    You were in favor of the FIT-5.. now you're against it?

    You should change your screen name to Weathervane, you change direction so often.
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    Agreed it has too much plastic and looks a little flimsy. It is just a prototype, though.

    As I said above, the neat I idea I saw was that the bottle rotates on pack to a low-profile position without having to unsling/loosen the straps. Of course that's no longer an issue if the flat-pack ever makes it into the field...
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    Are you saying plasticy because of the pic posted or another?

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    Darn it - pictures won't show up for me - either here or on the site....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuRat View Post
    Are you saying plasticy because of the pic posted or another?
    I think the mask itself looks to have too many plastic parts. At last from the picture I posted here it looks like the whole nose cup and frame are plastic. I guess that's not too different from the current SCOTT masks which are almost entirely hard plastic (except for the soft plastic and rubber nose cone).

    There are other pictures on DVice article that show the pack frame and other views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    Darn it - pictures won't show up for me - either here or on the site....
    Try this one on Tuvie
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    Nope. Red X's there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Nope. Red X's there too

    Same for me.....

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    I asked about the pics, as what is shown is a 3D model, not an actual physical model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Flip flopping again, eh?

    You were in favor of the FIT-5.. now you're against it?

    You should change your screen name to Weathervane, you change direction so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    Agreed it has too much plastic and looks a little flimsy. It is just a prototype, though.

    As I said above, the neat I idea I saw was that the bottle rotates on pack to a low-profile position without having to unsling/loosen the straps. Of course that's no longer an issue if the flat-pack ever makes it into the field...
    Plastic or composite? Huge difference you know?

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    Funny thing - if this was being introduced by Scott, we would have 46 pages of people saying what a tremendous idea and concept it is, and how they can't wait to try one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Funny thing - if this was being introduced by Scott, we would have 46 pages of people saying what a tremendous idea and concept it is, and how they can't wait to try one!
    Nah, if it were a new concept from Scott it would look like this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Funny thing - if this was being introduced by Scott, we would have 46 pages of people saying what a tremendous idea and concept it is, and how they can't wait to try one!
    ZING!!

    An very true.


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    The combination of a flashlight, voice amp, and HUD in the facepiece seems like a gimmick. We already have voice amps and HUDs in most SCBA. What benefit is the flashlight in the facepiece? Sounds like another battery to change or draw on the unit. Most firefighters already have helmet and coat lights. Do we really need another? I've never been a huge flashlight guy so maybe I'm just biased.

    The low profile thing seems like a gimmicky thing also. Its a fairly simple procedure. Since we have firefighters of all sizes is the deice going to put the bottle in the right spot under the arm on all firefighters? Will it be too high for smaller firefighters?

    How much is this thing going to cost and it can do all the things SCBAs already do or objects firefighters already carry? Even if scott made it, it'd be some dingery trinket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Funny thing - if this was being introduced by Scott, we would have 46 pages of people saying what a tremendous idea and concept it is, and how they can't wait to try one!
    So true. Too many people are blinded by brand names and don't have the real capacity to actually evaluate anything with an open mind. When selling air packs the rule was don't go with 100 miles of NYC because they only wanted Scott there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    So true. Too many people are blinded by brand names and don't have the real capacity to actually evaluate anything with an open mind. When selling air packs the rule was don't go with 100 miles of NYC because they only wanted Scott there.
    What is wrong with having a loyalty to a brand name that keeps you alive? Scott is a tried and true, proven reliable manufacturer. I am in no way shape or form saying to not give other manufacturers a chance, but seriously go with what you know. My department uses MSA and I belive in my pack every time I put it on. So you are exactly right that I would be blinded by a brand name, but I have depended on and trust their product with a lot.

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    Cool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFbg View Post
    What is wrong with having a loyalty to a brand name that keeps you alive? Scott is a tried and true, proven reliable manufacturer. I am in no way shape or form saying to not give other manufacturers a chance, but seriously go with what you know. My department uses MSA and I belive in my pack every time I put it on. So you are exactly right that I would be blinded by a brand name, but I have depended on and trust their product with a lot.
    If it has anything to do with a City then it's bad. Just ignore him.
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