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    So, just a little info for anyone that is curious about SLC Fire, they are a 14 station department. Morale for city firefighters is pretty high due to them having a contracted ambulance for their medical transports, unlike the rest of the fire departments here in the valley. So if you are worried about being stuck on a box, you can throw that one out the window. Medics will still accompany the the transport rigs on calls as deemed necessary. They have a good heavy rescue team, and a good haz mat team. They are also a part of the FEMA task force for the state of Utah, along with the UFA. Academy is the standard 16 week class and it seems to be fairly rugged, so be prepared. They get you all the fire certs you will need to start out in the academy, so don't worry about that. SLC sees a lot of fire compared to the rest of the valley. Overall, it is a great dept, and anyone should be happy and proud to be a part of it. Any other questions, feel free to ask.

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    Best paid department in Utah. Strong union. Strong pension, though it just changed to be less valuable for all those hired after July 1 of last year. But it should be around come retirement for new comers. Like a previous poster mentioned, contracted ambulances. But medics still ride along for ALS calls. High morale. Professional. 3 platoons on A-B-C 48/96's. 13.something % medic pay differential.

    They just closed applications for the list, and won't be taking applications again until January of 2014. There were a couple years a few years back with no hires- I think a whole list might have gone by untouched. The last list had 3 classes hired from it- one in 2010, and two in 2011. The classes are usually about 10 at graduation, but there are some washes, so they usually start larger than that.

    Based on 2 years ago: There is a video test- bpad- instead of an oral board. The first face to face interview you do is your chief's interview, post list. They seem to interview and hire according to the placement on the list. They'll interview more than 10 for 10 spots, but if they like you and you're in the top 10, you're in great position. Education seems to be a bonus. Medics are a bonus.

    Academy is 14 weeks. Its rough. It's also very "you don't talk about fight club." So getting specifics from recruits is hard because they aren't allowed to talk about it. Literally. You go through a whole fire I and II course, even though just about all that are hired have those certs. It's very academic, and they wash over poor test performance. Be in shape when you arrive. Of those 14 weeks, 1 is spent on hazmat and 1 on driver training.

    When you're hired, it's a 1 year probation, and another year of apprenticeship after that. Ongoing testing and bookwork during that time. You do your first 3-4 months as a 5th on an assigned crew. After those first few months, you begin swinging and can expect to swing for 3-5 years.

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    According to what I read on the application process, they're giving 1 pt to Utah EMT's, 5 to vets, and 10 to disabled vets. Great opp if you're an disabled vet w/ EMT. Best of luck to all.

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    What written test do they give? And what does the Bpad consist of? I can't seem to find any information the testing process. Thanks

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    I honestly don't know on the written test. I never paid much attention to the names or differences between written tests. Just show up and take them. I think it was just basic comprehension. I don't remember it being fire or medical specific.

    But with the bpad, you can visit the website here:
    B-PAD - The Video Oral Board Experts. The website is mostly set up to sell bpad to other agencies, but you can see what it entails by looking around the site. You wear a suit, and stand in front of a camera and are recorded as you respond to the video scenarios presented to you. They are the same kinds of scenario questions as the oral boards. There wasn't a live board assessing answers during the slc bpads- the video of your answers is sent off to a location where the bpad people assess the answers and score you.

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    We should get our test results here soon. On another note, did anyone here end up on the Park City list or know if they are going to put on a second academy off it?

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    Thanks for the input artichoke and honz!

    A quick question, are there any opportunities to present your qualifications, knowledge, skills, etc during the BPAD? Or is it 100% scenario based? I ask because you stated that having some fire certs and other education fares well, but is that left to when you go to your Chiefs oral? This will be my first time getting ranked without any formal opportunity to present a resume or talk about myself if this is the case.

    Looks like they are taking the top 121 candidates to BPAD, the high score was a 96%. Anyone hear how many took the written?

    Good luck to those moving forward!

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    Although I cannot quote the exact numbers, I was told there was well over 1000 for the test this year (2012). As previously mentioned, they're only taking the top 121 to the BPAD. In talking with my friends throughout today, most of us have heard whether or not we made it past the first round. The high test score was 96%. Luckily, I made it to the next round!

    To answer some of Jskierpx's questions, it appears that there's not much you can do to "sell yourself" in the BPAD. It's mostly a scenario-based test which judges how you react and adjust to various situations. The test is actually scored by the BPAD group and not SLCFD (from what I was told). So, it doesn't really get you anywhere in explaining your credentials to some scorer several hundred miles away. It does remove some of the bias from the testing in oral boards, though. It allows you to be ranked according to your responses and not just who you know. I'm sure those who have experience will excel in the BPAD simply because of their experience and their knowledge of how to handle difficult situations. So, you probably won't get much of a chance, if any, to really "sell yourself" in the BPAD. However, you will get the chance to "strut your stuff" at the oral board with the chief. That would probably be the best time to market your skills to the department and convince them why you're a good candidate for SLCFD. Surprisingly, being ranked before actually getting a formal opportunity to present your qualifications isn't abnormal. I've been ranked on several lists prior to even meeting an administrator with a department. So, don't get too upset about the whole process.

    Good luck to all who took the test this year! And best of luck to all those who didn't! There's quite a few openings coming up around the country!

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    There isn't any opportunity to talk about your certs or experience in the BPAD. Like TAG said, it's scored and ranked by the BPAD people, and I don't think SLCFD ever sees the video. They will combine your written and BPAD scores to create the list. It should say in your letter how to submit certs/education/etc for preference points. I think usually you bring them to the BPAD. They also used to let you bring proof of passing the CPAT within the last year to the BPAD too, otherwise you have to take it once ranked. Usually only top 50 take the CPAT. Your letter for chiefs interview will list all the things you have to bring. Background check/driving record/personal history statement and questionnaire/birth certificate/DL/HS diploma/military discharge. This is where you would turn in any other degrees or certs you want in your file for consideration.

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    Thanks for the information. It says they will accept a copy of our CPAT cards at BPAD, which is awesome as it saves me the (possible) trip back out to take it again.

    Looking forward to the BPAD in a couple weeks!

    Good luck to others testing as well~

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    Thanks for all the info on the BPAD, this is all very useful. My only other question is; does anybody have any info on the kinds of situations we might have? I'm not asking for any specific examples but i've also heard people say some time on the test is spent answering standard interview questions. Does anybody know if I should be prepared to answer the same old interview questions or if it is more of scenarios such as a distraught child, or a coworker conflict, or an angry family member etc?

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    Obviously I can't give specifics, but this is from the BPAD website:

    The candidate views three or four professionally acted and produced video scenarios--each portraying critical incidents as may be encountered on the job. (All scenes were developed by departments and rated for realism, difficulty, and importance to the job by subject matter experts.)

    So scenarios you encounter on the job- with coworkers, chain of command, the public, etc.

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    That's what I was looking for. I appreciate the info.

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    How does eveyone feel their BPAD went? It seems a little crazy they will be able to rank all of us based on 5-8 minutes of talking...

    Oh well, just another hoop to jump through. Hopefully we hear soon!

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    Anyone moving on to the first round of CPATs?

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    I think the BPAD went well for most of us who took it. A couple scenarios, in my opinion, we're a little harder to talk through than others. I still wasn't too worried walking out of the test. I think those with experience in fire and EMS had a little easier time since many of us have been in similar situations already. That being said, the rankings are out. The list is officially presented tomorrow to the City Civil Comission for approval and adoption. One practice session for the CPAT has already happened. The official CPAT is in early August. I haven't seen the list myself yet, but I don't know many people who made the list. Where did everyone rank?

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    I am ranked in the 40s on the list. Thinking I will get a call for a chiefs after they have run one or 2 academy's??? Wheres everyone else at? It would be nice to know where a few of us ended up and correlate that with when we are getting calls for chiefs and other parts of the process...

    Cheers~

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    Bueller? Anybody?

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    I've heard from a credible source that #1-#15 will be getting called for interviews in November for an academy that will begin in January... anyone else heard anything?

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    I am out of state thus very limited on rumors circulating...

    I thought they try to start each academy with 15 recruits, and would interview more like the top 20-25 for the first academy. Doesn't seem like they would just take 1-15 in for interviews and then straight to academy.

    Anyone else have input from how this process has gone in the past?

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    They usually do interview more than they hire, but it's very rare to skip over someone on the list, the chief's interview is more of a formality than a process to weed people out. If they were planning on hiring 15 guys, there is a very good possibility #1 - #15 will get picked up. Not always the case, but usually. But for the record, SLC is running at least 15 guys short between the three platoons right now. Best of luck.

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    Has anyone heard any progress on the process?

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    Academy started yesterday. Class of 6. Graduation anticipated for May. I wonder if they'll all make it through.

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