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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyRube View Post
    MVC-Pinned- (here we go). 2 engines, 2 ladders, 1 heavy squad, 1 volunteer squad, ambulance, either BLS or ALS; ALS response car, EMS supervisor, 2 battalion chiefs, Fire Safety officer, several volunteers POV to scene.
    Wow... what about a rehab and canteen unit?
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    ALL MVA's

    Rescue Engine (FD)
    Light Rescue (EMS)
    BLS (as indicated by reported number of injured), usually 2
    Command Vehicles (depends on who is available, could be as many as 3 FD and 1 EMS)
    ALS as indicated by the calling party

    The EMS agency is also volunteer and during the day we have 2 paid hospital based BLS units. If any of the volunteer EMS folks are around we'll get the light rescue.

    Command will size up and cancel or request more resources as needed.
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    Two medic units
    engine-suppression
    rescue-extrication
    engine-Road Block
    blue light brigade (volunteers in POVs)-opps, did I say that?
    Sheriff unit(s) or State Trooper
    Two separate air ambulances are 20-25 minutes away if needed.
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    Cool Our TC Response

    1st Due Medic Engine, Truck, Duty Chief and an Ambulance. If needed we order and fly-out the Pt. on our Air Ambulance(s).
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    Volunteer FD that does not run ambulance or medic. Any entrapment or unknown will get a heavy rescue and two engines (different stations) Rescue assigned to extrication, first engine to provide cover if needed and 2nd engine to block traffic.

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    Our response to a MVC or pedestrian accident is an Engine Company and Rescue. The IC can upgrade or downgrade the response as necessary.
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    Depends on the situation and location.

    Minimum is at least a Med Unit and an Engine. Possible trapped victim(s) and roll-overs gets a Truck and a Rescue dispatched, as well, EMS Supervisor and a Battalion Chief. If a fire is involved, then all the above is dispatched.

    We also have 2 Life Flights on standby if needed.

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    Post MVA Response

    Engine (has full set of extrication tools and Med supplies) 1st out with 4-5 FFs
    Heavy Rescue with 4-6 FFs
    Tender or Utility if needed for traffic or manpower 2-5 FFs

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemanpat29 View Post
    kind of late getting here, but here is what we try and do.
    Volunteer dept, ambulance is seperate. any call that is a rollover, possible entrapment, head-on, ect. county dispatches us. if call is on a small county rd we usually take 1 engine and possibly our small f350 truck. If call is on 4 Lane hwy 27 I try and bring the second engine and position it to block any and all lanes I need to. depending of course on time of day, weather, ect, I will roll second engine even on smaller roads to secure the scene. Past Cheif wanted second engine to stay at staion for other calls. Current Chief(ME) figures anyone that would respond to a second call should already be at the first, so why not have truck and gear with us
    We are all volunteer but here is our response:
    Depending on injury count on page (after first injury add ambulance)

    1 injury

    3 man Ambulance
    6 man Engine/rescue
    5 man Squad
    2 man Squad soon to be replace by 2 man rescue

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    1-Engine (w/extrication tools, etc.)
    1-Squad
    & Ambulances dictated by number of patients

    Our Police are great about working with us on traffic control and helping out when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim1118 View Post
    1-Engine (w/extrication tools, etc.)
    1-Squad
    & Ambulances dictated by number of patients

    Our Police are great about working with us on traffic control and helping out when needed.
    minor- Rescue Engine, ambulance, pd, fire police pickup
    major- Rescue Engine, Pumper, ambulance, ems supervisor, pd, fire police pickup

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    We are a rural county department but we try to, and usually do man rescue 24-7. With that in mind it is probably considered a light rescue with at minimum 2 man.

    For injury we roll 1 rescue, 1 engine, 1 ambulance (all our county units are ALS) and 1 heavy rescue (from our county ems as well) and county sheriff (at minimum 1 car sometimes more) depending on the road, highway patrol will send a car usually arriving later. We do not allow POV on scene unless it is an officer and they are passing by the scene before getting to the station but that usually does not happen. This is all subject to being canceled by EMS if they arrive first or the engine gets canceled if the rescue arrives and there is no need for them. Lots of variables I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RescueEngine40 View Post
    PG County

    Accident under 45MPH Zone- 1 Suppression Unit & Ambulance

    Accident under 45MPH Zone w/Rollover- 1 Suppression Unit, Ambulance, Heavy Rescue Squad

    Accident over 45MPH Zone- 1 Suppression Unit, Ambulance, Heavy Rescue Squad

    Accident over 45MPH Zone w/Rollover- 1 Suppression Unit, Ambulance, Heavy Rescue Squad

    Accident under 45MPH Zone w/Entrapment or Ejection- 1 Suppression Unit, Ambulance, Heavy Rescue Squad, Medic Unit, EMS Duty Officer, Battalion Chief

    Accident over 45MPH Zone w/Entrapment or Ejection- 1 Suppression Unit, Ambulance, Heavy Rescue Squad, Medic Unit, EMS Duty Officer, Battalion Chief

    Accident on Interstate (I-495, RT-50)

    2 Suppression Units, 1 Heavy Rescue Squad, 2 Ambulances

    Accident on Interstate w/entrapment or ejection- 2 Suppression Units, 1 Heavy Rescue Squad, 2 Ambulances, Medic Unit, EMS Duty Officer, Battalion Chief

    EMS Task Force- 2 Ambulances, 1 Medic Unit, EMS Duty Officer, Safety Officer

    In PG County we do run Paramedic Ambulances out of stations 26, 40, 41, 42, 55 so if an Ambulance is due in each of their run areas, they will run the PA

    for example, Crain Highway/Brandywine Road, reported Personal Injury Accident with entrapment, one of fire and ejection

    Rescue Engine 840, Paramedic Ambulance 840, Engine 836, Medic 825, EMS 814, Battalion Chief 807

    I'm with RE40.........(Same County). One change that may be in the works is dropping the Speed that calls for a Heavy Rescue from 45 to 35. We're seeing increasing Traffic, and Speed limits being lowered, but the Severity of the Crashes is remaining up..........
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    Default Ontario Canada - Volly Dept

    Since EMS is provided by the Region ( municipality ) our response to all MVC's includes 1 rescue, 1 pumper, and 1 tanker ( blocker ). EMS dipatches their own rigs and supervisors so we could get anywhere from 1 ambulance to multiples, including air.

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