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    Default No tender without FF1 and NFPA 1002??

    Our department is writing an AFG grant for a new tender and we have a question. We are a small rural Kansas department with 20 unpaid volunteers. A few of our guys have NIMS certifications. None of us has Firefighter 1 or NFPA 1002 for operation of fire apparatus.

    Do we stand much of a chance of getting a new tender? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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    Why not write a grant for the training that your people need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomastender View Post
    Our department is writing an AFG grant for a new tender and we have a question. We are a small rural Kansas department with 20 unpaid volunteers. A few of our guys have NIMS certifications. None of us has Firefighter 1 or NFPA 1002 for operation of fire apparatus.

    Do we stand much of a chance of getting a new tender? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
    If you plan on submitting your application this year, then address a plan to attain your 1001 and 1002 in your narrative. The online application will ask if you plan to ask for funds to attain those levels or if you intend to pay for it yourself. (if your unsure, say you intend to attain those certifications on your own).

    Then write a kick *** narrative and make sure you list all your critical infrastructure and other emergency concerns. There are some great grant writers in kansas with boatloads of expereince.

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    In addition ask for funding for a comprehensive driver training program for emergency vehicle operators and ask for funding for physicals for all you operators.
    Tanker accidents kill more firefighters than any other vehicular cause
    Yes you can write a quality application for a tanker. Read the program guidance from front to back & then read it again to make sure you understand all the areas you need to cover and what you will need to show in your narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomastender View Post
    Our department is writing an AFG grant for a new tender and we have a question. We are a small rural Kansas department with 20 unpaid volunteers. A few of our guys have NIMS certifications. None of us has Firefighter 1 or NFPA 1002 for operation of fire apparatus.

    Do we stand much of a chance of getting a new tender? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
    No reason why everyone is not 100% NIMS compliant it is free and online,but has a high cost for not being 100% complaint. Mainly applying for any aid.

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    Thanks to everyone for their answers. I think we have found one of our firefighters willing to get FF1 training.

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    One guy, you should see if your state academy does field deliverly classes. Up here they are always looking for departments to host classes. Big bonus you get first crack at enrollment. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomastender View Post
    Thanks to everyone for their answers. I think we have found one of our firefighters willing to get FF1 training.

    Uh, I think you will find that they want a plan for EVERYONE on your department that is involved with firefighting operations to get Firefighter 1 and 2.

    The drivers have to get additional training, as well as the very intensive NFPA physicals.

    The good news, all of it is a covered expense for you to ask for funds for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomastender View Post
    Thanks to everyone for their answers. I think we have found one of our firefighters willing to get FF1 training.
    Do not get too scared about your lack of NFPA 1001 FF1. Many of our plains states are just beginning to address this situation. Our area has not had a FF1 training session in over 6 years now. The Feds can jump up and down and scream all they want at us, but they need to scream more at your SFM.

    This has been a sore issue for awhile now. My recommendation is for your candidate to make every effort to attend FF1 classes somehow. One will show an effort to try and comply. I am not sure how Kansas SFM offers FF1, but know some excellent Kansas firefighters who you could contact who are also grant writers and you could ask them how they address it. If however classes are being offered close to you, I would advise getting more than one member to take the training.

    We can expect the issue of FF1 compliance to become a hot topic. Especially since AFG wants you to address FF2 now.

    Online FF1 training looks to becoming more and more prevalent in the very near future.

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