Challenge Safety, or Challenge the Chief?

[Dickey]

As the incident is still under investigation I can not give specifics.

So then why even bother to create a post then??

Some people's kids.....mother should have ate ya when your bones were still soft!!

[nameless]

Some people's kids.....mother should have ate ya when your bones were still soft!!

she only will eat hard bones

[johnny46]

Boom.

Headshot.

[LeatherHed4Life]

It feels like it’s going to take a black band, a folded flag, and someone’s last ride to get things changed.

unfortunately that is usually the case. If its a major issue then it cannot be the first time its ever happened either. Try to find a LODD report with a similar situation occuring and try and use that. It sucks that someone has to pay a heavy price to initiate change in the fire service, but YOUR dept specifically may not have to pay as heavily if you can honor someone elses sacrfice to help your guys out.